02:04:54 <wizzyrea> #startmeeting Koha General IRC Meeting, 7 May 2013 02:04:54 <huginn`> Meeting started Tue May 7 02:04:54 2013 UTC. The chair is wizzyrea. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:04:54 <huginn`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 02:04:54 <huginn`> The meeting name has been set to 'koha_general_irc_meeting__7_may_2013' 02:05:04 <wizzyrea> there we go, please introduce yourselves using #info 02:05:12 <jcamins> #topic Introductions 02:05:13 <wahanui> #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 02:05:24 <druthb> #info D Ruth Bavousett, TM 3.12 02:05:35 <jcamins> #info jcamins = Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services; RM for 3.12 02:05:37 <wizzyrea> #info Liz Rea, Catalyst IT, NZ 02:05:38 <jwagner> #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS 02:05:44 <BobB> #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 02:05:47 <trea> #info Thatcher Rea, ByWater Solutions 02:06:14 <mtj> #info Mason James, NZ 02:06:18 <wizzyrea> anyone else? 02:06:27 * mtj waves to all 02:06:36 <BobB> hi mtj 02:06:41 <mtj> ooh, could be a quicky 02:06:41 <wizzyrea> #topic Announcements 02:06:49 <wizzyrea> does anyone have any? 02:07:04 <wizzyrea> going once 02:07:06 <wizzyrea> going twice 02:07:11 <wizzyrea> Right 02:07:24 <wizzyrea> #Discussion on candidates to be the 3.14 Translation Manager 02:07:37 <wizzyrea> #topic Discussion on candidates to be the 3.14 Translation Manager 02:07:49 <jcamins> The only person who put a name forward was Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (bgkriegel). 02:07:50 <wizzyrea> Right, do we have any candidates? 02:07:58 <jcamins> #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.14 02:07:59 <wizzyrea> bgkriegel, about? 02:08:04 <druthb> bgkriegel++ 02:08:19 <eythian> #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ 02:08:20 <wizzyrea> I feel weird having a vote to elect him when he's not around 02:08:23 <mtj> #info -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_7_May_2013 02:08:42 <BobB> We could elect him subject to his acceptance 02:08:47 <wizzyrea> There we go I like that 02:08:54 <druthb> BobB++ 02:09:04 <jcamins> wizzyrea: he added himself to the docket and sent an e-mail outlining his platform, so I think we can move forward. 02:09:29 <wizzyrea> Ok, all in favor of electing bgkriegel (Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel) TM for 3.14 subject to his acceptance of the role, please +1 02:09:34 <jcamins> +1 02:09:42 <wizzyrea> +1 02:09:43 <druthb> +1 02:09:50 <eythian> +1 02:10:04 <BobB> +1 02:10:09 * druthb presses the "easy" button. 02:10:27 * wizzyrea offhandedly wonders if we need to define the corpus necessary to create a quorum 02:10:32 <wizzyrea> :P 02:10:42 <wizzyrea> because that's not a lot of people and this meeting was not well advertised. 02:10:55 <wizzyrea> HOWEVER. I think it doesn't matter for this particular vote. 02:11:30 <jcamins> Agreed. 02:11:37 <wizzyrea> #decided Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel elected as 3.14 Translation Manager 02:11:46 <wizzyrea> Right, so updates 02:11:55 <BobB> we are eight (plus Wahanui) I reckon that's a quorum 02:11:56 <wizzyrea> #topic Updates on currently maintained releases 02:12:02 <BobB> #info Formal thanks to Ruth for excellent work as outgoing Koha Translation Manager 02:12:12 <wizzyrea> cjh, do you have anything to note regarding 3.8? 02:12:21 <wizzyrea> (if you're about) 02:12:32 <cjh> #info Chris Hall, Catalyst IT, NZ 02:12:50 <cjh> wizzyrea: sorry, was distracted. 3.8 isnt mine yet afaik. 02:13:10 <wizzyrea> k, and rangi is not here so - on to the 3.12 updates 02:13:25 <wizzyrea> jcamins? 02:13:26 <wahanui> somebody said jcamins was brilliant 02:13:28 <jcamins> #info Koha 3.12.0 will be released on or about May 22. 02:13:53 <jcamins> #info Translation updates will be pulled from Pootle on or about May 19, so get your translations finished before then. 02:13:56 <wizzyrea> how are you feeling generally about 3.12 02:14:21 <wizzyrea> ? 02:14:33 <jcamins> #info As of beta3, Koha 3.12 had 21 features, 159 enhancements and 399 bugfixes 02:14:50 <jcamins> Since then I have pushed several more bugfixes, with more yet to come. 02:14:57 <BobB> Wow, that's huge 02:15:16 <cjh> awesome work everyone 02:15:23 <wizzyrea> yep, jcamins++ 02:15:25 <cjh> 399 bugfixes is impressive 02:15:26 <wizzyrea> and everybody 02:15:27 <wahanui> everybody is so enthusiastic today :) 02:15:34 <jcamins> #info I plan on releasing one more beta and at least one Release Candidate prior to May 22, subject to the number of applicable bugfixes that are written, signed off, and passed QA. 02:16:17 <jcamins> Any bugfixes that do not make any string changes are candidates for 3.12.0, though obviously I will not push anything that seems dangerous. 02:16:43 <jcamins> Anything that I decline to push to 3.12 will be bumped back to 3.14 for gmcharlt to push to master. 02:16:54 <jcamins> And I think that's about it. 02:17:13 <jcamins> 3.12 seems pretty stable, but there are lots of bugs that could use fixing, and there is a desperate need for more testing. 02:17:20 <jcamins> #todo Test all the things! 02:17:35 <jcamins> No, that's wrong. 02:17:38 <jcamins> #action Test all the things! 02:17:42 <jcamins> Any questions? 02:18:11 <wizzyrea> are there specific areas that you feel ought to be focussed on? 02:18:14 <wizzyrea> in terms of testing? 02:18:15 <jcamins> Hmmm... 02:18:26 <wizzyrea> areas with massive change that really need some going over? 02:18:55 <jcamins> I'd love to see more testing in search, because of the QueryParser work, and Acquisitions has seen a lot of flux in this latest release cycle as well. 02:19:25 <jcamins> And... 02:19:30 <jcamins> let me check the release notes. 02:19:43 <wizzyrea> 3.10 had a hold queue rewrite that is causing some issues, it might be worth going over reserves 02:19:46 <dcook> #info David Cook, Prosentient Systems, Australia 02:20:00 <jcamins> Yeah, good call. 02:20:16 <jcamins> We're definitely still seeing problems in reserves, so concerted testing would be a very good thing. 02:20:49 <wizzyrea> Hourly loans seems decently stable finally 02:20:54 <jcamins> Owen has been checking for regressions in the OPAC due to the patron self-registration, but more eyes make all bugs shallow. 02:21:00 <BobB> #action Test the Reserves functionality 02:21:27 <wizzyrea> (specifically, multi branches with transfers) 02:22:00 <wizzyrea> anything else anyone would like to bring up regarding 3.12 02:22:23 <jcamins> Before we move on to Kohacon2013, I have something about 3.14. 02:22:34 <wizzyrea> Right, then we are in the final countdown to 3.12 - I'm looking forward to it 02:22:37 <wizzyrea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw 02:22:54 <druthb> wizzyrea++ 02:22:55 <wizzyrea> Thanks jcamins for all of his hard work 02:23:11 <wizzyrea> and bravo to everybody for all of their work 02:23:28 <wizzyrea> onwards 02:23:30 <jcamins> #info If the QA team is interested in working on patches for 3.14, that would not be a problem for the 3.12 release. Just set the target release version to 3.14 and get to QAing! 02:23:37 <wizzyrea> #topic Kohacon2013 02:23:42 <wizzyrea> is anyone here who can give an update? 02:24:29 <wizzyrea> last I heard things were ticking along nicely 02:24:48 <wizzyrea> right then 02:24:51 <BobB> Is there a deadline for booking rooms, to help get the free A-V etc? 02:25:29 <wizzyrea> I would pose that to the list bobb, none of the kohacon people seem to be here 02:25:38 <BobB> cool, thx 02:25:49 <dcook> Mmm, good question 02:25:54 * dcook still has to book flights/rooms... 02:26:15 <wizzyrea> #topic Vote on proposal to increment major version number for every feature release after 3.14 Pi 02:26:16 <BobB> dcook QF has a sale on - get cracking 02:26:36 <wizzyrea> I'm not certain I feel comfortable voting on this with so few 02:26:37 <dcook> BobB: I think I'll be going AC but thanks :) 02:26:47 <BobB> :) 02:26:49 <jcamins> wizzyrea: especially since we're all just going to abstain? 02:26:56 <jcamins> Yeah... 02:27:06 <dcook> wizzyrea: Agreed 02:27:57 <wizzyrea> Can we agree to postpone this question to the next meeting, or set up an alternative voting mechanism 02:27:58 <wizzyrea> ? 02:28:01 <jcamins> +1 02:28:23 <BobB> postpone to next meeting +1 02:28:30 <jwagner> +1 02:28:40 <dcook> +1 02:28:47 <druthb> +1 02:29:15 <wizzyrea> anyone else? 02:29:26 <mtj> erm, +1 :) 02:29:32 <wizzyrea> lol. 02:29:57 <wizzyrea> #decided we will postpone the vote regarding numbering schemes to the next meeting, which will be better advertised. 02:30:38 <wizzyrea> next up - things from last meeting 02:30:39 <mtj> #agreed we will postpone the vote regarding numbering schemes to the next meeting, which will be better advertised. 02:31:13 <mtj> (meetbot command is #agreed) 02:31:22 <jcamins> I don't see any actions for last meeting. 02:31:35 <wizzyrea> yep, I'm not seeing much of anything there really 02:31:36 <jcamins> *from 02:31:58 <wizzyrea> so time to set the time for the next meeting 02:32:01 <mtj> ah, #agreed only works for chair… :/ 02:33:12 * BobB didn't know that 02:33:52 <jcamins> First Wednesday at... 18:00 UTC? 02:34:21 <wizzyrea> it's going to be June 5, 1800 UTC? is my math 02:34:22 <jcamins> 6 June 2013, 18:00 UTC 02:34:27 <wizzyrea> 6 june even. 02:34:28 <jcamins> 5 June, yes. 02:34:32 <jcamins> No, you were right. 02:34:45 <jcamins> My left hand was a key over. 02:34:52 <wizzyrea> right, next meeting is at 1800 UTC 5 june 02:34:59 <wizzyrea> anything else? 02:34:59 <wahanui> anything else is a guess 02:35:29 <wizzyrea> #agreed we will postpone the vote regarding numbering schemes to the next meeting, which will be better advertised. 02:35:34 <BobB> err, that will be 4am in Sydney - I reckon I'll be an apology 02:35:53 <wizzyrea> bobb - if you want, you could leave your apology with your vote on the wiki 02:36:00 <wizzyrea> that seems fair 02:36:07 <jcamins> BobB: no worries, I probably will be too. 02:36:18 <jcamins> And it'll be the middle of the day here. 02:36:24 <BobB> :) 02:37:22 <wizzyrea> okie dokie 02:37:35 <wizzyrea> well I thank you all for your participation in today's gathering of community minded people 02:37:38 <mtj> #info next meeting is at 1800 UTC 5 june 02:37:55 <wizzyrea> Minutes will be available on the wiki 02:38:02 <wizzyrea> have a lovely rest of your day/night 02:38:07 <wizzyrea> #endmeeting