21:00:23 #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 30 November 2017 21:00:23 Meeting started Thu Nov 30 21:00:23 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_30_november_2017' 21:00:29 #topic Introductions 21:00:29 #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:00:41 Please introduce yourself following wahanui's exapmle 21:00:49 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_30_November_2017 today's agenda 21:00:50 #info edveal McKinney Public Library 21:00:53 #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 21:01:00 #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University 21:01:12 #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada 21:01:22 #info kelly mcelligott, bywater 21:01:33 #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 21:01:40 #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater 21:01:44 hiya BobB! 21:01:51 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:02:00 hey bag 21:02:07 #info George williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 21:02:15 #info Ed Veal McKinney Public 21:02:46 nice to see so many people attending :) 21:02:56 yayy 21:03:01 it really is though 21:03:03 #topic What's been done so far 21:03:05 * LeeJ high fives everyone 21:03:08 ok, first thing 21:03:08 first thing is to know what we want to check! 21:03:39 #info 17.11 was released and we have a new documentation team: Michael Cabus, Lee Jamison and Ed Veal 21:03:48 thank you for taking over! 21:03:52 :D 21:04:01 caboose++ edveal++ 21:04:06 congrats team, awesome! 21:04:11 LeeJ++ caboose++ edveal++ 21:04:18 yay! 21:04:19 I am stoked 21:04:20 Thanks 21:04:31 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.05 Release team 18.05 21:05:02 hope it's ok if I chair this one? but can hand over too :) 21:05:22 cait: it's a poetic sendoff and change of roles :) 21:05:25 #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst 21:05:34 what else has been done 21:05:49 #info Joubu has been working on the po files and manual translation 21:05:58 #info po files should be available on pootle very soon 21:06:26 I have added a new wiki page with some info from the mailing list for helping people translating the manual 21:06:31 #info Sorry I'm late, Hugh here from Brimbank Libraries, newly part of the Koha project :-) 21:06:43 #info https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_the_Koha_Manual help page for translators 21:06:54 welcome hughr :) 21:07:08 #info bgkriegel has been fixing warnings and small errors 21:07:11 i am working on the 17.05 features for the manual, having difficulty adding images,,,,but still working on it 21:07:19 welcome to Koha, hughr! We're always excited to get fresh blood :) 21:07:38 hi hughr 21:07:45 cait: was the manual finalized yet? 21:07:49 also kellym and LeeJ have fixed and added more stuff 21:08:13 i am nto sre if the link is on the website yet 21:08:16 rangi? can we publish? 21:08:33 publish what? 21:08:42 put the link to 17.11 on the website 21:08:47 it's in the release notes already 21:08:49 yep 21:09:00 you just need to ask whoever looks after the website to do that 21:09:09 or if you have permissions go for it :) 21:09:20 cool 21:09:35 who can I #action for that? :) 21:10:22 * cait will wait until the silence is uncomfortable enough for someone 21:10:43 I'd answer if I knew :P 21:10:44 LOL, I don't think i have perms 21:11:15 #info caboose bywatersolutions Princeton (sorry for lateness0 21:11:27 we gave you karma anyway :) 21:11:32 :) 21:11:33 wizzyrea can do that? I can ask her cait 21:11:54 #action BobB to take care of getting the link to 17.11 added to the manual 21:11:55 great thx 21:12:01 next new thing 21:12:14 #info Joubu has made it so the manual contributors appear in the release notes 21:12:25 yay credit! 21:12:36 #link https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-released/ release notes 21:12:57 you can also see contributions made in the git repository or with the git stats 21:13:05 #link http://git.koha-community.org/stats/kohadocs/authors.html git stats for kohadocs 21:13:12 and a last thing 21:13:30 #info koha-docs was a moderated mailing list, I have access now and will hand over the login so it can be changed 21:13:45 that's why recently some rather old mails got through that had been stuck there 21:14:22 hm out of new htings, someone else? 21:14:35 cait: we're continuing with RST for the format, yes? 21:14:49 we just switched to it... so I'd think so 21:14:57 yay 21:15:00 I'm new to the role so will probably need to get process stuff down 21:15:03 because I love it 21:15:11 but I love proces stuff 21:15:14 you got me worried there for a moment :) 21:15:25 cait: I'm finally going to get around to it over Christmas break to create a "syntax/how to document" guide 21:15:26 moving on to the next topic then 21:15:35 #topic Workflows 21:15:42 LeeJ++ 21:15:45 That is needed. 21:15:56 @LeeJ++ 21:15:57 caboose: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:16:02 ha ha 21:16:10 That would be great cait 21:16:15 it is! I have one here at work for stuff we work on and it helps keep everything consistent 21:16:16 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 21:16:33 caboose: that shoudl be a good start i hope 21:16:44 for the more technical stuff, please get in touch with rangi 21:16:48 sweet thanks cait I'll do some study 21:17:06 As a newbie it's not super clear what the process is re new contributions to the docs being 'approved' 21:17:12 like how to update our git repository from the github one and how to create the manual 21:17:34 hughr: there is no big process yet 21:17:49 we merged the merge requests after proof reading 21:17:54 checking ti looks about right 21:18:10 hughr: the basic steps are listed in the editing the manual wiki under "Easy - Editing with gitlab" 21:18:34 with a video from LeeJ even :) 21:18:39 * LeeJ bows 21:18:43 we were trying to make it as easy as possible 21:18:46 i hope it kinda worked out 21:18:51 LeeJ: yep, that's a good doc, I haven't watch the vid yet :-) 21:18:54 that's what happens when I'm bored..I get productive :) 21:19:18 ok to move on? 21:19:22 if anyone has suggestions for other videos just let me know and I'll see what I can do 21:19:29 cait: sure! 21:19:36 i think maybe steps on how to add images would be good 21:19:57 #idea add notes on how to add images 21:20:01 cait: I'll have to actually try adding some myself before I create that video :) 21:20:04 ok, there are notes already 21:20:15 #idea rather: add video on how to add images 21:20:17 yes there are notes for adding images 21:20:26 video would be great! 21:20:36 Where are we hosting the videos? 21:20:51 edveal: I put the one posted there on my personal YouTube account 21:20:53 i don't think there is an official spot yet 21:21:06 are we worried about the consistency of the look of the images, or does that matter? 21:21:17 * LeeJ thinks perhaps a Koha Community YouTube channel 21:21:32 +1 21:21:34 hm i think plain Koha would be good 21:21:35 +1 on the YouTube channel 21:21:37 +1 21:21:38 not customized 21:21:41 as it could cause confusion 21:22:15 cait: ok thanks 21:22:21 I agree cait plain Koha for images 21:22:42 agreed 21:23:05 +1 21:23:24 should we count this as an informal vote? 21:23:48 I think we should 21:23:49 how formal is this meeting? 21:24:02 #agreed screenshots should be made from a 'plain' Koha with no customizations 21:24:13 +1 21:24:28 i tihnk as formal as we have one for doucmentation :) 21:24:35 :) 21:24:46 for unlocking the mailing ist - i will try to add the new docs team as managers and forward you the passwords 21:24:49 hopefully this week 21:25:18 #info cait will make the docs team moderators of the koha-docs mailing list and forward login information 21:25:21 cait along with any information we will need for managing the list. 21:25:22 hm 21:25:32 #action cait to make the docs team moderators of the koha-docs mailing list and forward login information 21:25:39 i just got access too 21:26:00 not sure yet, but we had asked people to send things there and then i noticed it was set to moderated 21:26:15 i think someone will have to take a look at the configuration 21:26:40 moving on? 21:26:48 I can look at setting up an 'official' Koha Community YouTube channel - will take to general IRC meeting. Also, to make sure we load things into the Internet Archive as well. 21:26:48 i forgot to switch topic... 21:26:53 #topic Next steps 21:27:08 davidnind: that's awesome! 21:27:23 #action davidnind to look at setting up an 'official' Koha Community YouTube channel - will take to general IRC meeting. Also, to make sure we load things into the Internet Archive as well. 21:27:26 davidnind great! 21:27:44 ok, anything we should add to next steps? 21:27:51 cait I want to edit the To Do list (framapad). Do I need an account there? 21:27:54 davidnind: keep me in the loop...I can give you the MP4 of my docs video I have up to migrate it to there 21:27:55 no 21:27:59 you can just start typing 21:28:00 i can see how to donate but not how to log in 21:28:03 that was the idea of it mostly 21:28:11 to make it even easier than the wiki 21:28:22 ah, cool 21:28:33 if you want you can pick a color and put your name on it 21:28:45 LeeJ: will do! 21:28:54 davidnind++ 21:29:15 davidnind can you keep me in the loop as well? 21:29:16 #info the to-do list in framapad can be edited without a login, if you want, put your name and your color on top 21:29:56 anything else? 21:30:16 that works :) 21:30:24 cait: nothing I can think of 21:30:35 ok, so time to take over new docs team 21:30:43 #topic Set date and time of next meeting 21:30:52 #chair caboose LeeJ edveal 21:30:52 Current chairs: LeeJ caboose cait edveal 21:31:04 * LeeJ feels important 21:31:38 Any suggestions? 21:31:38 Any suggestions are welcome. 21:32:11 Late Dec. will be bad! 21:32:22 i aimed for once a month, but with holidays coming up maybe earlier? 21:32:29 this day and time is good for AUS/NZ, not sure for others 21:32:32 4 weeks from now will be christmas - i'd prefer a week or so before or a week or so after 21:32:33 hmm..I think it would be fine having a meeting once a month? I don't think we really need to meet more frequently than that 21:32:51 Agreed 21:33:00 +1 21:33:04 So before or after Chrismas 21:33:07 what about December 21st? 21:33:14 I vote before 21:33:26 the 21st would be 3 weeks from today 21:33:27 I am happy with the 21st. 21:33:36 Me too 21:33:39 ok for me 21:33:43 works for me 21:33:44 21/22 is good 21:33:48 So is that a vote? 21:34:03 +1 for the 21st dec. 21:34:06 same time? 21:34:06 same time is, like, good here 21:34:06 is everyone good with 21 UTC? 21:34:17 +1 21:34:20 +1 21:34:23 afree wit 21 UTC 21:34:24 +1 21:34:25 +1 21:34:27 +1 21:34:32 CAN/US is ok with this time too 21:34:45 #startvote 21:34:45 Unable to parse vote topic and options. 21:34:58 cait: what commands after startvote? 21:35:18 oh sorry, one sec 21:35:36 ah, a question with ? and then options in () 21:35:51 but i'd just log it as agreed now :) 21:36:11 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings :) 21:36:17 thanks :) 21:36:26 thanks cait 21:36:51 so we all agree on 2017-12-21 at 21 UTC? 21:37:05 +1 21:37:08 +1 21:37:09 +1 21:37:10 +1 21:37:13 +1 21:37:16 +1 21:37:38 +1 21:37:54 +1 21:37:55 cait: can't find the command to set next meeting in the log 21:38:04 no special command 21:38:07 just do an #agreed 21:38:20 okay 21:38:57 are you doing it? :) 21:39:01 yes 21:39:19 #agreed date and time of next meeting set for December 21, 2017 at 21 UTC 21:39:34 not sure if that worked :P 21:39:39 it will have :) 21:39:52 now end meeting :) 21:40:01 #endmeeting