14:31:28 #startmeeting Development IRC Meeting 26 April 2023 14:31:28 Meeting started Wed Apr 26 14:31:28 2023 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:31:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:31:28 The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_26_april_2023' 14:31:47 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_26_April_2023 Today's agenda 14:32:01 #topic Introductions 14:32:07 #info Tomas Cohen Arazi 14:32:14 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:32:24 #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:32:38 #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:32:50 hi thd, nice to see you around (and everyone else of course) 14:32:57 #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:33:16 10 more seconds 14:33:34 #topic Announcements 14:33:52 #info KohaCon23 Update: 14:34:19 #info Call for talks closes April 30th 14:34:33 can anyone send a reminder to the lists? 14:34:46 say, tomorrow? 14:35:06 sorry not volunteering this time 14:35:56 too much this week and next week I'll have more time but too late 14:36:23 #info Andrii sent a reminder to the lists 14:36:32 #action tcohen will reinforce it tomorrow 14:37:19 #info 'Spring into Fitness: Koha Community Challenge 2023 (koha-US and ByWater Solutions)' 14:37:29 #info Join at https://koha-us.org/2023/04/06/spring-into-fitness-koha-community-challenge-2023/ 14:37:36 moving on 14:37:42 tcohen++ 14:37:46 #topic Update from the Release Manager (23.05) 14:38:16 #info Lots of things pushed, several interesting ones to get in in the next weeks. Hurry! 14:38:35 #info Looking closely to a design discussion on Vue-land 14:39:14 #info Contact tcohen if you really want your stuff pushed, so we have a clear understanding of the steps that follow and the chances they have to get pushed 14:39:26 moving on? questino? 14:40:14 I'll have if you fail things :) 14:40:15 #info tcohen asked the Translation Manager to hand us the commands that are used in Pootle to update things, so we have more hands able to do it 14:40:49 #info Email sent to koha-translate to start the conversation about switching to another tool begining next cycle 14:41:08 #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:41:14 rmaints? 14:41:26 Skipping 14:41:38 #topic Updates from the QA Team 14:41:38 #info 22.11.x is behind on this months release whilst we try to get strings sorted 14:41:45 just made it 😛 14:41:48 hehe 14:42:12 I've not been on QA much this month.. trying desperately hard to keep up on other commitments 14:42:54 #topic Status of roadmap projects 14:43:07 #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/Roadmap_for_Koha_v23.05 14:43:37 #info Lots of things done or almost done 14:44:00 #info Generic solution for CSRF delayed for early next cycle, unfortunately 14:44:05 #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:44:33 #info ILL backends into core delayed for next cycle 14:44:39 oh 14:44:41 i missed my topic 14:44:58 #info Great work from PedroAmorim[m] to speed up the ILL requests page 14:45:09 yes, QA is too low... I have asked QA team to fix it... 14:45:35 #info kudos to oleonard for his intensive work on streamlining the UI and normalizing the way we do things 14:45:44 oleonard++ 14:46:00 PedroAmorim++ 14:46:00 I'm making good progress! Thanks to all for testing and QA 14:46:20 oleonard++ 14:46:30 Maybe we finish the FA upgrade next cycle 14:46:48 #topic Updates from the QA Team 14:46:55 your turn, cait 14:47:02 don't get distracted :-P 14:47:07 again? :) 14:47:30 #info Need more action from the whole QA team to fix the QA queue 14:48:00 cait++ 14:48:45 [off] Bernardo has fired the update script 14:48:46 #info Numbers are constantly above 100, I hope we can push down some more, lots of bugs (faulty behaviour) ones too 14:48:55 [off] and I've got the command 14:49:14 [off] ashimema: can you give me a go at transaltions still? I can finish tonight 14:49:26 I also put up the roles page for 23.11 14:49:33 I don't think it has finished yet 14:49:37 please sign up for QA if you can - need more hands always 14:49:38 I'm not releasing you give me the go cait 14:49:45 but if you do.. please also DO QA :) 14:49:56 thank you 14:49:57 moving on? 14:50:00 yep 14:50:07 #topic Actions from last meeting 14:50:45 #info Selenium and Cypress tests are passing already 14:51:05 #info CSRF day postponed for after the release 14:51:30 I'd skip the next ones today 14:51:45 #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, .. 14:52:15 #info Roles for 23.11 are open. Please put your name here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.11 14:52:33 would someone send to the mailing list please? 14:52:51 #action tcohen to send email about roles for 23.11 14:54:03 thank you 14:54:09 done 14:54:49 #info We need to agree on a default Perltidy configuration. See bug 30002. To be voted next meeting. 14:54:49 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30002 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Add project-level perltidyrc 14:55:24 #info We need to upgrade Gitea, and move to Forgejo. Anyone willing to spend time on that please contact tcohen 14:55:50 Do we know who maintains perldoc.koha-community.org? 14:56:51 [off] Bernardo says the commands are erroring and that's why strings haven't got updated yet. HE's working on it right now 14:57:08 i think gmcharlt_ 14:57:26 [off] that makes snse, but hope it's not a hard fix 14:57:40 [off] he blames constant nodejs dependencies changes 14:58:51 #info perldoc.k-c is outdated, we need to investigate and have it update more frecquently 14:59:48 #info Development documentation (from the hackfest): nothing to discuss here. People do their best. If you want to spend time on documenting the listed things, and need guidance, contact us by any means 15:00:03 we shoudl save the list 15:00:09 maybe as a todo in the wiki? 15:00:20 are you volunteering? 15:00:26 I#ll try 15:00:31 can you action me plz? 15:00:32 I made notes 15:00:39 yep,t hey are on the agenda 15:00:41 action cait, and she can grab me if needed 15:00:46 i just don't want them to get lost there 15:02:03 #action cait and ashimema will put together the TODO notes from the hackfest on the Wiki 15:02:11 #topic Set time of next meeting 15:03:18 bye 15:03:19 The issue of DMARC compaitibility for the mailing list needs input from Katipo. MIME nesting seems not to be a serious choice as no one seems to have notice of implementing that. 15:03:44 thd: we don't have quorum to decide anything on that today 15:03:52 Certainly, 15:04:05 I'd say defer to next meeting 15:04:15 but we need input from Katipo to consider properly. 15:04:21 and we might need to advertise the topics on the list so interested people are around 15:04:28 can you contact them? 15:05:42 Them is perhaps the Koha founders who once worked there. 15:06:14 thd: I think biblibre mostly 15:06:26 they host all mailing lists but Koha 15:06:43 The general mailing list is still Katipo about which the issue was raised. 15:06:46 koha-devel etc. 15:06:58 is ist not also present for theothers? 15:07:00 #info Next meeting: 10 May 2023, 14:00 UTC 15:07:32 The same problem is present for all the lists but no one has raised the issue in relation to the other lists. 15:07:51 Better to start with one and learn something. 15:07:52 I think if we start this proces, we should fix for all 15:08:02 ok 15:08:11 thanks everyone 15:08:16 #endmeeting