02:00:07 <Brooke> #startmeeting 02:00:07 <huginn> Meeting started Wed May 2 02:00:07 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:07 <huginn> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:08 <wahanui> if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me 02:00:23 <Brooke> #topic Introductions 02:00:23 <wahanui> #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 02:00:37 <oleonard> #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries 02:00:38 <druthb> #info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions. 02:00:39 <Brooke> Haere Mai and welcome 02:00:54 <Brooke> please introduce yourself with #info if you want to be counted 02:00:55 <Irma> #info Irma Birchall CALYX Australia 02:01:18 <jwagner> #info Jane Wagner LibLime/PTFS 02:02:50 * druthb watches wahanui carefully. 02:03:31 <Brooke> okie dokie, I'm thinking this is prolly gonna be a content light meeting, but we'll see 02:03:36 <mtj> #info Mason James, kOHAaLOHA, NZ 02:04:16 <Brooke> does anyone have any announcements? 02:04:57 <Brooke> #topic Update on Roadmap to 3.4 02:05:09 <Brooke> not sure we really need a bullet point for this anymore.. 02:05:27 <Irma> possibly a few ... but I think it will be nice to keep them for the next Koha newsletter ... 02:05:38 <Brooke> okie dokie 02:05:50 <Brooke> I think Daniel's doing a nice job with that 02:06:13 <oleonard> Anyone recall if an end-of-life deadline has been announced for 3.4? 02:06:28 <Brooke> it seemed to be moving that way 02:06:35 <Brooke> and then summat happened 02:06:55 <Irma> yes DAniel is doing a fine job ++ 02:07:47 <Brooke> #help End of Life for 3.4 or no? 02:08:02 <BobB> #info BobB 02:08:07 <Brooke> hopefully someone will mark that up by the next meeting 02:08:10 <BobB> Sorry I'm late 02:08:28 <Brooke> Jared is asleep, but left this on the wiki 02:08:37 <mtj> i think 3.4 automatically becomes EOL after the release of 3.8 02:08:42 <Brooke> Jared is still learning his way around the release maintainer tools, but hopes to release 3.6.5 by May 23; he will announce a string freeze as soon as he has something with strings that require freezing 02:09:02 <eythian> #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT 02:09:17 <Brooke> I'm betting that if you #info or #help, you might be able to draw his attention, else AT later 02:10:54 <Brooke> Rangi? 02:10:55 <wahanui> I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 02:11:15 <oleonard> Last I heard rangi was traveling today 02:11:19 <Brooke> oh duh 02:11:21 <Brooke> ta 02:11:32 <Brooke> Robin do you happen to know anything? 02:11:51 <eythian> yeah, rangi won't be around today 02:12:02 <eythian> I'm not sure of any details of his 3.8 plans 02:12:36 <Brooke> rog 02:12:54 <Brooke> (bet Paul's asleep) 02:13:13 <oleonard> 4AM? I hope so. 02:14:44 <druthb> no slef, either. 02:14:45 <Brooke> the big one for this one is that we need a lot more dough from sponsorship 02:14:56 <Brooke> #help find sponsors 02:15:29 <Brooke> there's a reminder on the wiki that there are meetings on Wednesdays at 18.00 02:15:40 <Brooke> the good news is 02:15:42 <oleonard> Brooke, is there a run-down of expenses which still need to be covered? I'm just curious. 02:15:51 <Brooke> we had a boatload of papers submitted 02:16:02 <Brooke> he's got a weird skelebudget posted owen 02:16:05 <Brooke> lemme dig up the link 02:16:06 * druthb codes up a bigger boat. 02:17:40 <Irma> #info sponsors can be individuals or companies or libraries ... 02:18:03 <Brooke> it's on the vol page 02:18:04 <Brooke> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Volunteers 02:18:24 <Irma> #info Could/should a "donate" button be added on the KohaCon12 page? 02:18:41 <Irma> #info http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ 02:19:00 <Brooke> already is 02:19:01 <Brooke> http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsoring-kohacon12/ 02:19:19 <Brooke> :) 02:19:53 <Irma> I can't see a donate button on the KohaCon12 page 02:20:37 <eythian> It's at the bottom 02:20:40 <Irma> ahh thanks Brooke I am using Chrome 02:21:07 <Brooke> that's why they pay me the big bucks ;) 02:21:38 <Irma> and some ... 02:21:48 * druthb offers to double Brooke's wage for chairing the meetings. 02:22:01 <Brooke> so, I think it's a good idea to fish or cut bait on the KohaCon2013 bids 02:22:12 <Brooke> there was a flurry of interest on the listserv 02:22:29 <Brooke> but only a fraction of the folks that said they were interested posted to the wiki 02:23:00 <Brooke> #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013 02:23:13 <Brooke> if you want to bid please edit it ^ 02:23:37 <Brooke> the way it's gone recently is that that page gets an edit 02:23:45 <Brooke> at some point, we say alright already 02:23:54 <Brooke> Nicole's been kind enough to gen a proper ballot 02:23:57 <Brooke> that then goes out 02:23:58 <Brooke> folks vote 02:24:01 <Brooke> and hooray 02:24:12 <Brooke> anyone have problems with that procedure? 02:24:57 <Irma> #info We need a http://koha-community.org/kohacon13/ page soon to ... 02:26:03 <Brooke> okie dokie 02:26:06 <Irma> procedure is good Brooke 02:26:13 <Brooke> I'll prolly send (another) reminder to the list to edit the wiki 02:26:30 <Brooke> does closing that portion in a fortnight sound reasonable, or is that too quick? 02:26:39 <Irma> too quick 02:26:54 <Brooke> [just recalling that folks wanted a location by KohaCon, sooo] 02:27:22 <Brooke> what's your timeframe then, Irma? 02:27:32 <Irma> #info is it not important to remember that there should not be 2 Koha conferences in the same financial year. So KohaCon13 would need to be after July 2013 02:28:38 <Irma> close 2 months after KohaCon12 ... that's my current suggestion 02:29:08 <Brooke> wow. That's long. 02:29:52 <eythian> well, '11 and '12 were closer together 02:30:13 <BobB> I guess the issue is whether we want to announce the KohaCon13 venue at KohaCon12. If so, you have to close it next meeting. 02:30:19 <Irma> actually my logic is wrong as KohaCon12 will be over in the FY 2012... 02:31:10 <BobB> There are a couple of folks who can't get budget for KohaCon twice in the same financial year. That's happened with Mumbai and Edinburgh. 02:31:17 <BobB> Just something to bear in mind. 02:31:18 <Brooke> right 02:32:00 <BobB> For the US the financial year is Jan to Dec I thinK? So prolly not an issue for folks there. 02:32:05 <Brooke> no 02:32:10 <Brooke> most Libraries are Juneish 02:32:15 <jwagner> It depends on the institution 02:32:20 <BobB> oh, ok 02:32:27 <jwagner> Jan-Dec, Oct-Oct, June-June, etc. 02:32:27 <oleonard> Yeah, fiscal years differ from place to place 02:32:42 * oleonard 's library's fiscal year doesn't even match his state's 02:32:48 <Irma> thanks jwagner. CAn you elaborate re the type of libraries? 02:32:51 <Brooke> I think it was the six month thing that really tanked it 02:33:17 <jwagner> Not really -- it depends on the individual institution, except federal government sites which start FY October 1 02:33:29 <Irma> Financial year in Australia and New Zealand is 1 July to 30 June 02:33:55 <kathryn> hi sorry didn't intro earlier - Kathryn from Catalyst : ) 02:33:56 <Brooke> so 02:34:07 <kathryn> in nz it can also be march - apr 02:34:15 <Irma> hi kathryn :) 02:34:28 <kathryn> june-july is for public sector mostly 02:34:32 <Brooke> I think we need a proper idea as to when to close the wiki and forward it to Nicole if she's willing to do up the ballot 02:34:51 <Irma> well here we go , I better stick to local knowledge! 02:35:26 <jwagner> I don't see any particular reason to have a final vote before KohaCon12. Let's give more time for bids to develop 02:36:01 <Gbengaadara> Intro here too. Olugbenga from Projektlink 02:36:10 <oleonard> Let's put it to the list. There aren't enough people here to make a good decision 02:36:45 <druthb> oleonard++ 02:36:56 <Irma> hi Gbengaadara thanks for your bid for KohaCon13 02:37:02 <Brooke> the vote is going to the list regardless of what we decide 02:37:09 <Brooke> and I'm going to send a reminder anyway 02:37:20 <Brooke> but we'll toss the timeframe in there as well 02:37:48 <Brooke> there were no actions from the previous meeting that I spotted in the minutes 02:38:01 <Brooke> but speak now or forever hold your peace if there's other stuff 02:38:42 <Irma> The success (I also mean the content) of KohaCon12 >> generates hopefully more bids for KohaCon13 02:41:39 <Brooke> anything out there at all? 02:41:58 <BobB> Lunch? 02:41:58 <wahanui> i think Lunch is a good idea :) 02:42:13 <druthb> :) 02:42:16 * jwagner would prefer bedtime to lunch.... 02:43:10 <Irma> back to work? 02:43:20 <Brooke> not just yet :P 02:43:28 <Irma> ok then ... 02:43:38 <Brooke> looking at you 6 June 02:44:05 <Brooke> should be 18.00 regardless 02:44:31 <Irma> during KOhaCon12 ... 02:44:37 <Brooke> d'oh 02:44:38 <Brooke> screw that 02:44:54 <Brooke> 13thish then? 02:44:55 * kathryn thought that was the idea 02:45:09 <kathryn> (but won't be at Kohacon so not relevant) 02:45:17 <Irma> it could be ok but has to be during a break time Scotland time 02:45:28 <Brooke> nah not gonna fidget with that 02:45:29 <jwagner> Might work during hackfest, but that's a regular program day -- awkward for a mtg 02:45:38 <oleonard> Won't work 02:45:50 <Brooke> 13th won't work too oleonard? 02:46:09 <oleonard> I mean scheduling a meeting around Kohacon meetings wont work 02:46:24 <Brooke> conflicts with the 13th? 02:46:39 * oleonard doesn't know the hackfest schedule 02:46:59 <Brooke> hackfest is til 11th 02:47:02 <Irma> depending of the time of day...I could bring some hot Belgian waffles along ... 02:47:50 <Irma> so 13th ok for CALYX 02:48:34 <Brooke> folks will prolly be a little jetlaggy, but prime conference memories should still be fresh :) 02:48:37 <Brooke> so 02:48:48 <Brooke> +1 for 13th June 18.00 UTC 02:49:23 <oleonard> +1 02:49:26 <Gbengaadara> +1 02:49:34 <Irma> +1 02:49:58 <druthb> +1 02:50:23 <mtj> +1 02:51:13 <Brooke> right that carries then 02:51:16 <Brooke> #endmeeting