02:00:07 #startmeeting 02:00:07 Meeting started Wed May 2 02:00:07 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:08 if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me 02:00:23 #topic Introductions 02:00:23 #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 02:00:37 #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries 02:00:38 #info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions. 02:00:39 Haere Mai and welcome 02:00:54 please introduce yourself with #info if you want to be counted 02:00:55 #info Irma Birchall CALYX Australia 02:01:18 #info Jane Wagner LibLime/PTFS 02:02:50 * druthb watches wahanui carefully. 02:03:31 okie dokie, I'm thinking this is prolly gonna be a content light meeting, but we'll see 02:03:36 #info Mason James, kOHAaLOHA, NZ 02:04:16 does anyone have any announcements? 02:04:57 #topic Update on Roadmap to 3.4 02:05:09 not sure we really need a bullet point for this anymore.. 02:05:27 possibly a few ... but I think it will be nice to keep them for the next Koha newsletter ... 02:05:38 okie dokie 02:05:50 I think Daniel's doing a nice job with that 02:06:13 Anyone recall if an end-of-life deadline has been announced for 3.4? 02:06:28 it seemed to be moving that way 02:06:35 and then summat happened 02:06:55 yes DAniel is doing a fine job ++ 02:07:47 #help End of Life for 3.4 or no? 02:08:02 #info BobB 02:08:07 hopefully someone will mark that up by the next meeting 02:08:10 Sorry I'm late 02:08:28 Jared is asleep, but left this on the wiki 02:08:37 i think 3.4 automatically becomes EOL after the release of 3.8 02:08:42 Jared is still learning his way around the release maintainer tools, but hopes to release 3.6.5 by May 23; he will announce a string freeze as soon as he has something with strings that require freezing 02:09:02 #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT 02:09:17 I'm betting that if you #info or #help, you might be able to draw his attention, else AT later 02:10:54 Rangi? 02:10:55 I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 02:11:15 Last I heard rangi was traveling today 02:11:19 oh duh 02:11:21 ta 02:11:32 Robin do you happen to know anything? 02:11:51 yeah, rangi won't be around today 02:12:02 I'm not sure of any details of his 3.8 plans 02:12:36 rog 02:12:54 (bet Paul's asleep) 02:13:13 4AM? I hope so. 02:14:44 no slef, either. 02:14:45 the big one for this one is that we need a lot more dough from sponsorship 02:14:56 #help find sponsors 02:15:29 there's a reminder on the wiki that there are meetings on Wednesdays at 18.00 02:15:40 the good news is 02:15:42 Brooke, is there a run-down of expenses which still need to be covered? I'm just curious. 02:15:51 we had a boatload of papers submitted 02:16:02 he's got a weird skelebudget posted owen 02:16:05 lemme dig up the link 02:16:06 * druthb codes up a bigger boat. 02:17:40 #info sponsors can be individuals or companies or libraries ... 02:18:03 it's on the vol page 02:18:04 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon12_Volunteers 02:18:24 #info Could/should a "donate" button be added on the KohaCon12 page? 02:18:41 #info http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ 02:19:00 already is 02:19:01 http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsoring-kohacon12/ 02:19:19 :) 02:19:53 I can't see a donate button on the KohaCon12 page 02:20:37 It's at the bottom 02:20:40 ahh thanks Brooke I am using Chrome 02:21:07 that's why they pay me the big bucks ;) 02:21:38 and some ... 02:21:48 * druthb offers to double Brooke's wage for chairing the meetings. 02:22:01 so, I think it's a good idea to fish or cut bait on the KohaCon2013 bids 02:22:12 there was a flurry of interest on the listserv 02:22:29 but only a fraction of the folks that said they were interested posted to the wiki 02:23:00 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013 02:23:13 if you want to bid please edit it ^ 02:23:37 the way it's gone recently is that that page gets an edit 02:23:45 at some point, we say alright already 02:23:54 Nicole's been kind enough to gen a proper ballot 02:23:57 that then goes out 02:23:58 folks vote 02:24:01 and hooray 02:24:12 anyone have problems with that procedure? 02:24:57 #info We need a http://koha-community.org/kohacon13/ page soon to ... 02:26:03 okie dokie 02:26:06 procedure is good Brooke 02:26:13 I'll prolly send (another) reminder to the list to edit the wiki 02:26:30 does closing that portion in a fortnight sound reasonable, or is that too quick? 02:26:39 too quick 02:26:54 [just recalling that folks wanted a location by KohaCon, sooo] 02:27:22 what's your timeframe then, Irma? 02:27:32 #info is it not important to remember that there should not be 2 Koha conferences in the same financial year. So KohaCon13 would need to be after July 2013 02:28:38 close 2 months after KohaCon12 ... that's my current suggestion 02:29:08 wow. That's long. 02:29:52 well, '11 and '12 were closer together 02:30:13 I guess the issue is whether we want to announce the KohaCon13 venue at KohaCon12. If so, you have to close it next meeting. 02:30:19 actually my logic is wrong as KohaCon12 will be over in the FY 2012... 02:31:10 There are a couple of folks who can't get budget for KohaCon twice in the same financial year. That's happened with Mumbai and Edinburgh. 02:31:17 Just something to bear in mind. 02:31:18 right 02:32:00 For the US the financial year is Jan to Dec I thinK? So prolly not an issue for folks there. 02:32:05 no 02:32:10 most Libraries are Juneish 02:32:15 It depends on the institution 02:32:20 oh, ok 02:32:27 Jan-Dec, Oct-Oct, June-June, etc. 02:32:27 Yeah, fiscal years differ from place to place 02:32:42 * oleonard 's library's fiscal year doesn't even match his state's 02:32:48 thanks jwagner. CAn you elaborate re the type of libraries? 02:32:51 I think it was the six month thing that really tanked it 02:33:17 Not really -- it depends on the individual institution, except federal government sites which start FY October 1 02:33:29 Financial year in Australia and New Zealand is 1 July to 30 June 02:33:55 hi sorry didn't intro earlier - Kathryn from Catalyst : ) 02:33:56 so 02:34:07 in nz it can also be march - apr 02:34:15 hi kathryn :) 02:34:28 june-july is for public sector mostly 02:34:32 I think we need a proper idea as to when to close the wiki and forward it to Nicole if she's willing to do up the ballot 02:34:51 well here we go , I better stick to local knowledge! 02:35:26 I don't see any particular reason to have a final vote before KohaCon12. Let's give more time for bids to develop 02:36:01 Intro here too. Olugbenga from Projektlink 02:36:10 Let's put it to the list. There aren't enough people here to make a good decision 02:36:45 oleonard++ 02:36:56 hi Gbengaadara thanks for your bid for KohaCon13 02:37:02 the vote is going to the list regardless of what we decide 02:37:09 and I'm going to send a reminder anyway 02:37:20 but we'll toss the timeframe in there as well 02:37:48 there were no actions from the previous meeting that I spotted in the minutes 02:38:01 but speak now or forever hold your peace if there's other stuff 02:38:42 The success (I also mean the content) of KohaCon12 >> generates hopefully more bids for KohaCon13 02:41:39 anything out there at all? 02:41:58 Lunch? 02:41:58 i think Lunch is a good idea :) 02:42:13 :) 02:42:16 * jwagner would prefer bedtime to lunch.... 02:43:10 back to work? 02:43:20 not just yet :P 02:43:28 ok then ... 02:43:38 looking at you 6 June 02:44:05 should be 18.00 regardless 02:44:31 during KOhaCon12 ... 02:44:37 d'oh 02:44:38 screw that 02:44:54 13thish then? 02:44:55 * kathryn thought that was the idea 02:45:09 (but won't be at Kohacon so not relevant) 02:45:17 it could be ok but has to be during a break time Scotland time 02:45:28 nah not gonna fidget with that 02:45:29 Might work during hackfest, but that's a regular program day -- awkward for a mtg 02:45:38 Won't work 02:45:50 13th won't work too oleonard? 02:46:09 I mean scheduling a meeting around Kohacon meetings wont work 02:46:24 conflicts with the 13th? 02:46:39 * oleonard doesn't know the hackfest schedule 02:46:59 hackfest is til 11th 02:47:02 depending of the time of day...I could bring some hot Belgian waffles along ... 02:47:50 so 13th ok for CALYX 02:48:34 folks will prolly be a little jetlaggy, but prime conference memories should still be fresh :) 02:48:37 so 02:48:48 +1 for 13th June 18.00 UTC 02:49:23 +1 02:49:26 +1 02:49:34 +1 02:49:58 +1 02:50:23 +1 02:51:13 right that carries then 02:51:16 #endmeeting