10:00:10 #startmeeting General IRC meeting 4 November 2015 10:00:11 Meeting started Wed Nov 4 10:00:10 2015 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 10:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_4_november_2015' 10:00:19 #topic Introductions 10:00:19 #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 10:00:29 #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, Wellington 10:00:31 please introduce yourself with #info, following wahanui's example 10:00:35 today's agenda is 10:00:36 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_4_November_2015 10:00:42 #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 10:01:07 #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 10:01:10 #info Bernardo González Kriegel 10:01:34 #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 10:01:36 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 10:01:55 #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Tech, India 10:02:01 Zeno Tajoli, CINECA, Italy 10:02:03 #info Frédéric Demians, Tamil, France 10:02:24 #info Zeno Tajoli, CINECA, Italy 10:03:20 drojf: intro please :) 10:03:23 sorry, late :) 10:03:35 #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 10:03:44 moving on to the next topic, see agenda above 10:03:50 Hm, is OPACBaseURL supposed to point to 127.0.1.1:8080? 10:03:51 #topic Announcements 10:04:15 Or how do i form a link to an OPAC page from the staff itnerface? 10:04:16 xarragon: it should be http(s):// and then the base url or your opac 10:04:33 of your opac... but in a meeting now, maybe ask a little later 10:04:52 Any announcements? tcohen? 10:04:55 Koha.Preference('OPACBaseUrl') 10:05:27 ah yes 10:05:56 tcohen: Ok, I was using the variable exposed by the get_template_and_foobar() call.. 10:06:05 Only that by the end of the week we need to have a beta release, so feature freeze is approaching 10:06:18 it will depend on how involved people are on fixing bugs 10:06:35 the more people, the less time i need to spend on fixing bugs 10:06:42 so more time to push things 10:07:02 that's why we set the trello board 10:07:12 so people notice things that need attention 10:07:24 #link https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers 10:07:25 tcohen: Ah, I have not set that preference 10:07:36 tcohen: Thanks for the help 10:07:45 right now, there aren't big issues (in general) 10:07:55 but there are a couple problems in Plack 10:08:06 bug 15032 10:08:07 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import 10:08:08 that require people to spend hours debugging them 10:08:17 bug 14743 10:08:18 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14743 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , addorder.pl redirect problems under plack behind apache 2.4.10 10:08:25 thomas, trello is private 10:08:35 + 1 tajoli 10:08:35 also proprietary 10:08:36 yeah, specially 15032, which is a bit tricky, and looks like an integration issue, somehow 10:08:52 tajoli: not anymore 10:08:53 there are also some plack problems in the 'needs QA' queue - i am nto there yet with plack, so help appreciated 10:09:09 eythian: next time we'll use taiga 10:09:12 :) 10:09:22 thanks tcohen 10:09:50 so I'll be focusing on the plack issues 10:10:08 and pushing enhancements until friday/saturday 10:10:21 that's all the announcements 10:10:36 there are also some patches releated to removing the old outdated C4::Dates package, that need testing still http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=14870&hide_resolved=1 for an overview (mouse over to see status) 10:11:17 #info Koha Beta to be relesased by end of week, so features will only be pushed until then 10:11:35 #info Please help fix/text open bugs as noted on the (now public) trello board 10:11:50 questions for further announcements? 10:11:53 About SQL setup (non MARC) translation 10:12:04 there might be missing bugs on that propietary board, though, please add them or speak up 10:12:05 This week or later ? 10:12:27 ? 10:12:39 #info please let us know if something is missing on the Trello board - so it can be added (or add yourself if you have an account) 10:12:53 tajoli: i think a part of those have already been pushed 10:12:54 All SQL files that have stings to transalte (no MARC) 10:13:03 or do you mean the web installer files? 10:13:19 Yes web installer files 10:13:19 web installer files are sql files 10:13:27 tajoli: what about them? 10:13:38 ah 10:13:47 translating the new notices and all that 10:13:47 don't worry about that tajoli 10:13:59 do we prefer to transalte them this week or later 10:14:00 ? 10:14:06 it can happen after the beta 10:14:11 #info Marc Véron, Allschwil, Koha Support Schweiz 10:14:16 tcohen: AHA, that's whatw as wrong actually.. It is not set as a template variable by the get_template_and_auth, so it was empty, and browser just defaulted to the same document. 10:14:21 might make sense too - in case you push more changes :) 10:14:34 moving on? 10:14:35 sure 10:14:35 tcohen: So I found a bug of mine there thanks to you! 10:14:45 #topic KohaCon15 10:14:49 * magnuse hopes to do an update of the nb-NO web installer files 10:14:55 It happened! :) 10:15:03 yay! 10:15:21 rangi has some summaries and information about it on his blogs - feedback seemed quite positive 10:15:31 nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ 10:15:38 http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/kohacon15/ 10:15:55 nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ 10:15:56 #link http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/kohacon15/ 10:16:03 nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ 10:16:21 something to add here? 10:16:55 Moving on then 10:17:05 yeap 10:17:12 #topic Elections of the release team for Koha 3.24 10:17:50 ok, before we start with voting 10:18:04 are there questions about the proposals, roles or procedure? 10:18:27 #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater Solutions 10:18:37 waves from his sleep 10:18:49 sleep walking RM-candidate... 10:18:51 sleepwalking release manager, awesome 10:18:58 jinx 10:19:07 :D 10:19:09 or sleepvoting 10:19:18 * bag no vote ;) 10:19:19 don't sleep and push... 10:19:24 ok, so we got no questions? 10:19:44 friends don’t let friends sleep and push 10:19:49 i'd like to do a group vote for the roles with multiple names people under one of the bold headings 10:19:53 does that work for everyone? 10:19:56 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.24 10:19:56 +1 10:20:05 +1 10:20:26 +1 10:20:29 otherwise, we will work top to bottom 10:20:38 +1 10:20:41 now i need to figure out the vote bot again, give me a little moment 10:20:50 #startvote help 10:20:50 Unable to parse vote topic and options. 10:20:52 hm 10:21:01 and if someone knows how to see the help page ... :) 10:21:02 @help startvote 10:21:02 eythian: Error: There is no command "startvote". 10:21:07 #help startvote 10:21:08 @help startvote 10:21:08 cait: Error: There is no command "startvote". 10:21:12 * eythian fails to help 10:21:22 @help start vote 10:21:22 drojf: Error: There is no command "start vote". 10:21:26 worth a try 10:21:46 eythian: no more package management for you? 10:21:57 @help startvote 10:21:57 magnuse: Error: There is no command "startvote". 10:22:04 #startvote Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM? (yes,no) 10:22:04 Begin voting on: Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:22:04 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:22:19 drojf: nope, passing the torch, found a willing victim :) 10:22:22 phrasing it as a question is kind of hard 10:22:37 #vote yes 10:22:38 do you support… 10:22:39 Brendan's proposal can be found here btw 10:22:42 #vote yes 10:22:45 #vote yes 10:22:46 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal 10:22:51 #vote yes 10:22:52 #vote yes 10:22:52 #vote yes 10:22:53 #vote yes 10:23:04 tcohen: that's good, will use it next time 10:23:05 good proposal, bad link (if that is the correct link) 10:23:20 hm works for me 10:23:25 cait: so you are signing to chair in six months? 10:23:26 (just calling the page proposal i mean) 10:23:29 i moved it 10:23:50 magnuse++ 10:23:51 #vote yes 10:23:52 #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines. Sorry it's the monthly meeting. :) 10:24:05 tcohen: ? 10:24:07 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Brendan_Gallagher_3.24_RM_proposal 10:24:23 ending the vote in a moment... 10:24:32 #vote yes 10:24:42 #endvote 10:24:42 Voted on "Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM?" Results are 10:24:42 yes (9): magnuse, cait, eythian, jajm, fredericd, tajoli, tcohen, drojf, mveron 10:24:50 ah nice, it works this time 10:24:51 #vote yes 10:25:16 #agreed RM: Brendan Gallagher yes (9): magnuse, cait, eythian, jajm, fredericd, tajoli, tcohen, drojf, mveron (+1 yes after ending the vote) 10:25:21 congrats bag! 10:25:30 poor bag ;) 10:25:31 congratulations Brendan! 10:25:34 bag++ 10:25:37 bag++ 10:25:40 bag++ 10:25:44 [off] yeah, poor bag :-D 10:25:59 #startvote Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers? (yes,no) 10:25:59 Begin voting on: Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:25:59 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:26:12 #vote yes 10:26:12 #vote yes 10:26:15 #vote yes 10:26:19 #vote yes 10:26:20 #vote yes 10:26:27 #vote yes 10:26:28 #vote yes 10:26:35 #vote yes 10:26:37 #vote yes 10:26:51 #vote yes 10:26:52 #vote yes 10:27:09 ending the vote in a moment 10:27:26 oh and congrats bag of course :) 10:27:47 #endvote 10:27:47 Voted on "Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers?" Results are 10:27:47 yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, cait, mveron, tcohen, drojf, schnydszch 10:28:20 #agreed Release maintainers: Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18). yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, cait, mveron, tcohen, drojf, schnydszch 10:28:31 #startvote Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP? (yes,no) 10:28:31 Begin voting on: Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:28:31 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:28:38 #vote yes 10:28:40 #vote yes 10:28:42 #vote yes 10:28:43 #vote yes 10:28:46 #vote yes 10:28:49 #vote yes 10:28:52 #vote yes 10:28:53 #vote yes 10:29:04 #vote yes 10:29:28 #vote yes 10:29:44 closing vote in a moment 10:29:57 #vote yes 10:30:07 #endvote 10:30:07 Voted on "Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP?" Results are 10:30:07 yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, mveron, cait, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:30:25 #vote yes 10:30:27 #agreed Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP. yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, mveron, cait, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:30:49 #startvote Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager? (yes,no) 10:30:49 Begin voting on: Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:30:49 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:30:56 #vote yes 10:30:57 * cait just hopes she typed all the names right 10:31:00 #vote yes 10:31:01 #vote yes 10:31:03 #vote yes 10:31:06 #vote yes 10:31:07 #vote yes 10:31:07 #vote yes 10:31:12 #vote yes 10:31:13 thanks bgkriegel! 10:31:14 #vote yes 10:31:15 #vote yes 10:31:20 #vote yes 10:31:31 bgkriegel++ :) 10:31:44 :) 10:31:45 #vote yes 10:32:07 ending vote in a moment 10:32:10 back ha thanks for the support all 10:32:25 * bag will still stay out of it for now 10:32:28 #endvote 10:32:28 Voted on "Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager?" Results are 10:32:28 yes (12): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, cait, mveron, schnydszch, drojf, tcohen 10:32:35 more and more people waking up :) 10:32:48 #agreed Translation Manager: Bernardo González Kriegel. yes (12): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, cait, mveron, schnydszch, drojf, tcohen 10:32:49 but it's bedtime 10:33:00 thanks to all :) 10:33:06 I will combine the next too if noone vetoes :) 10:33:09 thx to you! :) 10:33:26 go cait go :-) 10:33:28 #startvote Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager? (yes,no) 10:33:28 Begin voting on: Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:33:28 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:33:32 #vote yes 10:33:33 #vote yes 10:33:36 #vote yes 10:33:36 #vote yes 10:33:37 #vote yes 10:33:38 #vote yes 10:33:43 #vote yes 10:33:46 #vote yes 10:33:46 #vote yes 10:33:49 #vote yes 10:34:01 #vote yes 10:34:14 closing vote in a moment 10:34:30 #endvote 10:34:30 Voted on "Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager?" Results are 10:34:30 yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, fredericd, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, cait, mveron, tcohen, bgkriegel 10:34:39 #agreed Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard. yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, fredericd, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, cait, mveron, tcohen, bgkriegel 10:34:43 #chair drojf 10:34:43 Current chairs: cait drojf 10:34:48 ok, taking over for cait briefly so she can concentrate on being elected :) 10:34:49 handing over to drojf 10:34:56 #vote yes 10:34:57 #startvote Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager? (yes,no) 10:34:57 Begin voting on: Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:34:57 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:35:01 #vote yes 10:35:02 #vote yes 10:35:03 #vote yes 10:35:05 #vote yes 10:35:06 #vote yes 10:35:07 #vote yes 10:35:07 #vote yes 10:35:20 #vote yes 10:35:25 #vote yes 10:35:46 closing vote in a minute 10:35:47 #vote yes 10:36:28 #endvote 10:36:28 Voted on "Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager?" Results are 10:36:28 yes (10): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, mveron, tcohen, schnydszch, bgkriegel 10:36:38 #agreed: QA Manager: Katrin Fischer yes (10): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, mveron, tcohen, schnydszch, bgkriegel 10:36:44 cait++ 10:36:49 cait++ 10:36:50 oh damn i forgot to vote myself 10:37:00 haha 10:37:02 sorry :) for the record #vote yes 10:37:07 so ou don't support her 10:37:08 handing back to cait 10:37:15 *sobs* 10:37:17 ;) 10:37:26 cait ++ 10:37:29 i can only do one thing at a time :'( 10:37:34 #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 10:38:09 sorry, dealy. for the record #vote yes 10:38:14 #vote yes 10:38:29 ok i'll do qa team too, just a sec 10:39:32 #startvote Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team? (yes,no) 10:39:32 Begin voting on: Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:39:32 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:39:44 #vote yes 10:39:45 #vote yes 10:39:46 #vote yes 10:39:47 #vote yes 10:39:49 #vote yes 10:39:52 #vote yes 10:39:53 #vote yes 10:39:54 #vote yes 10:39:59 #vote yes 10:40:00 zaphod 10:40:01 #vote yes 10:40:05 oops 10:40:05 tcohen: voting for yourself eh? ;) 10:40:08 #vote yes 10:40:10 #vote yes 10:40:11 #vote yes 10:40:32 eythian: at this point i'm shameless 10:40:36 heh 10:40:55 * cait is very happy about the QA team :) 10:40:56 closing vote in a moment 10:40:58 #vote yes 10:41:18 all your sheeps 10:41:39 #endvote 10:41:39 Voted on "Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team?" Results are 10:41:39 yes (14): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, cait, HAgud, tajoli, mveron, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:42:12 #agreed: Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart: yes (14): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, cait, HAgud, tajoli, mveron, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:42:31 :) 10:42:43 I will continue now :) 10:42:45 handing back to the old and new qa manager/chair person 10:42:48 #startvote Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager? (yes,no) 10:42:48 Begin voting on: Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:42:48 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:42:52 #vote yes 10:42:53 #vote yes 10:42:55 #vote yes 10:42:56 #vote yes 10:42:57 #vote yes 10:42:57 #vote yes 10:42:57 #vote yes 10:42:58 #vote yes 10:42:58 #vote yes 10:42:59 #vote yes 10:43:01 and eythian++ for all the hard work done 10:43:02 #vote yes 10:43:03 #vote no 10:43:05 #vote yes 10:43:06 just kidding 10:43:07 #vote yes 10:43:08 eythian++ 10:43:09 #vote yes 10:43:11 #vote yes 10:43:12 eythian++ 10:43:14 #vote yes 10:43:17 :) 10:43:18 #vote yes 10:43:21 gmcharlt++ 10:43:21 #vote yes 10:43:31 #vote yes 10:43:51 closing vote in a moment 10:43:54 #vote yes 10:44:13 #endvote 10:44:13 Voted on "Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager?" Results are 10:44:13 yes (15): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, schnydszch, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, tajoli, indradg, mveron, cait, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:44:16 #vote yes 10:44:23 question about the "Continous integration infrastructure maintainer" role: bag mentioned something about CI in his proposal - will tcohen in this role (potentially) conflict with bag's plans? 10:44:25 #agreed Packaging Manager: Galen Charlton. yes (15): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, schnydszch, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, tajoli, indradg, mveron, cait, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen 10:44:51 i'm not sure we'll conflict 10:44:57 gmcharlt++ 10:45:16 my idea is taking care of the continous integration infrastructure tp 10:45:17 to 10:45:25 1) make it more useful 10:45:38 every time i am highlighted after a vote ends i am in fear i volunteered for something being half asleep 10:45:47 2) go beyond testing: packaging automation and doc generation 10:46:10 drojf: secretly you are being voted for every role 10:46:10 bag said in his proposal: "Jesse Weaver (Pianohacker) and Kyle Hall - help me with the tech and will be on the QA team. [...] One of them will be responsible as the Jenkins manager since I will need help there." 10:46:17 tcohen: i think bag had someone appointed to do jenkins stuff in his proposal, that is probably what magnuse is talking about 10:46:27 ah he can explain it better himself :) 10:46:38 bag? :) 10:46:45 might have fallen asleep now 10:46:48 yup 10:46:52 my feeling is, that it won't conflict -t here is lots to do 10:47:04 bag 10:47:07 yeah, same for me, i just wanted to point it out 10:47:14 i suppose the more people volunteer on doing stuff, the better 10:47:17 magnuse: it makes sense 10:47:47 otherwise you will challenge each other to a duel and sort it out 10:47:52 hehe 10:47:56 "chief jenkins assistant to the rm" 10:47:57 bug squash duel! 10:48:02 yeah! 10:48:08 now we're talking 10:48:09 heh 10:48:22 vservers at dawn 10:48:27 well, if bag is asleep let's just vote and leave the duelling for later 10:48:31 ok 10:48:34 #startvote Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi 10:48:34 Unable to parse vote topic and options. 10:48:35 magnuse+ 10:48:35 hm 10:48:38 oh sec 10:48:46 needs answer options 10:48:55 #startvote Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi? (yes,no) 10:48:55 Begin voting on: Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:48:55 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:48:57 #vote yes 10:49:00 #vote yes 10:49:01 #vote yes 10:49:04 #vote yes 10:49:07 #vote yes 10:49:09 #vote yes 10:49:10 #vote yes 10:49:13 #vote yes 10:49:14 #vote yes 10:49:16 #vote yes 10:49:34 #vote yes 10:49:48 i'm so tired, did i vote twice now? 10:49:51 #vote yes 10:50:00 drojf: no 10:50:15 #vote yes 10:50:21 drojf: even if you did, the bot would keep track of it :-) 10:50:26 ending vote in a moment 10:50:28 i know :) 10:50:47 #endvote 10:50:47 Voted on "Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi?" Results are 10:50:47 yes (13): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, indradg, mveron, thd, drojf, tajoli, bgkriegel 10:51:06 #info tcohen will duel brendan's guys if there is a conflict 10:51:08 yay! 10:51:11 #agreed Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi. yes (13): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, indradg, mveron, thd, drojf, tajoli, bgkriegel 10:51:12 Question: Can I still join the Bug Wranglers? 10:51:12 hehe 10:51:15 lol 10:51:20 mveron: yes 10:51:23 mveron: if you hurry :-) 10:51:23 do it now! 10:51:24 mveron: you ARE a bug wrangler 10:51:32 Ok 10:51:36 mveron++ 10:51:41 mveron++ 10:51:51 mveron++ 10:51:54 please add yourself to the wiki 10:51:59 i will add you to my voting thing :) 10:52:46 * mveron can not login to the wiki at the moment 10:53:03 * magnuse can do it 10:53:06 #startvote Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron? (yes,no) 10:53:06 Begin voting on: Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:53:06 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:53:19 #vote yes 10:53:20 #vote yes 10:53:23 oh tajoli sneaked in last minute too :) 10:53:25 swesome 10:53:28 yep :) 10:53:29 #vote yes 10:53:30 #vote yes 10:53:32 #vote yes 10:53:37 mveron: I added you 10:53:38 #vote yes 10:53:39 #vote yes 10:53:40 #vote yes 10:53:43 looks like we are going to have a great 3.24 release team :) 10:53:45 #vote yes 10:53:50 in fact in the last hour 10:53:53 #vote yes 10:53:56 (for the others) 10:53:57 #vote yes 10:54:00 #vote yes 10:54:04 (for the others) 10:54:22 ending vote in a moment 10:54:36 #endvote 10:54:36 Voted on "Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron?" Results are 10:54:36 yes (12): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, indradg, tcohen, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, schnydszch 10:54:50 #agreed Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron. yes (12): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, indradg, tcohen, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, schnydszch 10:54:54 w00t! 10:55:05 last one everyone :) 10:55:26 #startvote Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator? (yes,no) 10:55:26 Begin voting on: Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . 10:55:26 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 10:55:31 #vote yes 10:55:31 #vote yes 10:55:33 #vote yes 10:55:34 #vote yes 10:55:35 #vote yes 10:55:36 #vote yes 10:55:38 #vote yes 10:55:38 #vote yes 10:55:39 #vote yes 10:55:42 #vote yes 10:55:42 #vote yes 10:55:43 #vote yes 10:55:46 #vote yes 10:55:47 #vote yes 10:55:55 #vote yes 10:56:08 closing vote in a moment 10:56:33 #endvote 10:56:33 Voted on "Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator?" Results are 10:56:33 yes (15): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, mveron, HAgud, cait, indradg, tcohen, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, fredericd 10:56:40 #agreed Wiki Curator: Thomas Dukleth. yes (15): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, mveron, HAgud, cait, indradg, tcohen, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, fredericd 10:56:43 done :) 10:56:49 thx everyone! 10:56:52 good night everyone 10:56:55 ah, no 10:56:58 hehe 10:57:00 time to head to the office 10:57:07 thx cait and thx everybody 10:57:16 #topic KohaCon16 + KohaCon17 10:57:18 * eythian skips off yelling "I'm free! I'm free!" 10:57:21 lol 10:57:26 meeting is not over yet... 10:57:29 eythian++ 10:57:29 only the elections 10:57:36 that's what I meant :) 10:57:49 is osmeone here from KohaCon16? 10:57:51 the way ex-managers of releases and other stuff celebrate once they are done is very encouraging to others :D 10:57:53 dh-make-free 10:58:04 tcohen++ 10:58:05 eythian++ 10:58:08 KohaCon16 Greece? 10:58:11 drojf: he took care to find the next victim... so i htink we have to let him go :) 10:58:14 yes 10:58:23 I think one of the questions is from drojf 10:58:32 oh 10:58:34 that we shoudl decide on a voting mechanism early on next time 10:58:41 ah yes 10:58:43 because I'm representing Phils. 10:58:44 woudl you be ok pushing this to the next meeting? maybe with a little note about the options? 10:58:54 oops, is late 10:58:58 later everyone 10:59:02 * mveron has to go... 10:59:31 yes that would be alright. we just should think about it "now", not when we have the next vote. because then there is no time again 10:59:41 true 10:59:42 agreed 10:59:49 but it hink easier to vote with some optiosn spelled out 10:59:55 background being we had no fixed rules and made them up on the spot 11:00:02 if someone could describe some alternatives before the next meeting we could have a vote 11:00:31 #info Deciding on the voting mechanism for next KohaCon will be pushed to the next meeting - ideas and notes about mechanisms to vote on shoudl be added to the wiki before the next meeting 11:00:52 for KohaCon17 the question is about when to open the bids 11:00:52 i have an event here right before that so i will maybe not be done in time, but i could try 11:01:17 Alternatives become significant with more than two options to consider. 11:01:24 yes 11:01:24 i see no harm in opening up for kohacon17 bids now 11:02:05 second the motion you magnuse 11:02:08 where "opening up for bids" = having a page on the wiki where bidders can add themselves 11:02:19 no problem there for me either 11:02:28 but we shoud remember to communicate early about when it will close 11:02:33 mtompset copied the proposal of the philippines the second the last vote was over. while i am not against that at all, i would prefer asking "officially" for proposals before they come in 11:02:37 and decide that with some time left :) 11:02:38 we should just remember to send out a reminder about bidding in march or thereabouts 11:03:00 I would be happy to create the page and advertise it next week. 11:03:01 so the question was if we just do it now/just do it immediately after a vote is over. which would be fine for me 11:03:06 drojf: agreed 11:03:17 yeah apologies from the Philippines part if that's the case 11:03:32 it's ok schnydszch - just trying to refine the workflow i think :) 11:03:45 woudl someone volunteer to send a note about the new page to the mailing lists? 11:03:54 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals 11:04:02 :) cait 11:04:03 i also moves the page because it looked like the official page but said itw as only for the philippines proposal ;) 11:04:22 *moved 11:04:27 that page could be restored and slightly edited i thnk 11:04:46 looks like thd volunteered to advertise it :-) 11:04:51 good thing theres a ... 11:04:55 yeah, what magnuse said :) 11:05:00 ah sorry, missed that - thx thd 11:05:15 The page also needs an empty form. 11:05:17 #action thd to create a new page for Koha bids 2017 and advertise on the mailing list 11:05:45 Next week is after my current programming task :) 11:06:04 anything else we shold looking into for kohacons? 11:06:18 Sorry, about ElastichSearch. 11:06:33 Do we release it in 3.22 ? 11:06:42 #action all to add ideas about 'how to vote and how to count results' for KohaCon bids to the wiki to be voted on 11:06:47 should we decide on when the bidding stops and when the voting happens 11:06:47 Voting methods for counting votes with more than two options? 11:06:57 tajoli: it doesn't look like it at the moment 11:07:22 ok, moving on 11:07:37 #topic Update from the International Koha Fund committee 11:07:44 tajoli: I'm still afraid of it causing breakage to regular workflows right at the moment. It's one of the things I'm looking into finding and fixing at the moment. 11:07:45 bag has send me some notes to share with you all 11:08:00 #info The koha fund committee met recently - notes are found here on the wiki http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising_IRC_meeting_15_October_2015 11:08:01 magnuse: i think we could leave that open for now, but indicate we are going to do it at some point and announce it early 11:08:16 #info In summary - committee for collecting the money and creating fundraising opportunities seems to have a great start to it. 11:08:32 #info The part of the committee that makes recommendations to THT on how to spend money that is raised is being worked on. gmcharlt and BobB are in the process of writing the bylaws (rules) on how that committee portion should work. Of course anything that would need to pass etc, will be brought to the community for a vote. The next committee meeting date has not been set yet. 11:08:41 #info Update that was passed along to me from Joann at THT on the account standing for the fund. So far 5 people have made donations to the fund using the donate now button on the home page http://koha-community.org The total amount in the fund is $181.28 (USD) 11:08:42 magnuse: or we set a date we will always use. if that is an option. have not checked how that was done the last times 11:08:49 anonymous_donators++ 11:09:30 argh, sorry, i saw now there were more topics to kohacon... 11:09:38 not sure what's with my eyes 11:09:45 ;) 11:09:54 was not intentional 11:10:06 thd: yes, but also for 2 options 11:10:15 some people would have preferred ranked voting for 2 as wel 11:10:20 so 1+ :) 11:10:22 drojf: yeah, just leave it open i guess 11:10:25 Oh yes. 11:10:48 and it hink i'd leave the end date open for now - but we should put a reminder in... maybe to be anounced later 11:10:54 we should talk about the kohacon voting stuff next meeting 11:11:03 do we vote after the next kohacon? or before it? 11:11:29 its early, i'd say after 11:11:39 #action all - reminder: need to talk about dates for KohaCon bidding (end date for addings bids, when to vote, etc.) 11:12:14 anything for the fund committee? 11:12:15 ok lets skip to the topic we are actually in :) 11:13:47 I think it's awesome to see it moving - also that we got soem money already :) 11:13:53 hoping for more news soon 11:14:14 * eythian wonders if something like patreon is a good idea, though that's not really a discussion for now. 11:14:43 could be! 11:14:44 do you want me to add an.. info? is there idea too? 11:14:53 if you like 11:15:08 what is patreon? 11:15:31 you can donate a monthly amount 11:15:45 drojf: it allows setting up recurring donations to a thing, basically 11:15:56 rangi has a thing there for covering the cost of some server 11:16:06 I use it with a couple of podcasts I like, that sort of thing 11:16:06 #idea something like patreon could be looked into 11:16:28 ok. does it keep as much of your money as flattr? 11:16:37 dunno 11:17:48 oki to move on? 11:18:09 #topic Actions from General IRC Meeting 9 September 2015 11:18:11 if it is an option that brings more than we get without, we shoudl consider it 11:18:14 #info all done 11:18:20 if its not evil in general ;) 11:18:48 #topic Next Meeting 11:19:12 2 December 20 UTC? 11:19:58 *coughs* 11:20:28 hm 11:20:31 works for me 11:20:46 and better than 9 11:20:46 sounds good 11:20:56 #agreed Next meeting will be 2 December 2015, 20 UTC 11:21:08 #endmeeting