21:01:02 #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016 21:01:02 Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:01:02 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:02 The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016' 21:01:07 #topic Introductions 21:01:07 #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:01:12 today's agenda: 21:01:23 #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst NZ 21:01:24 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_28_September_2016 21:01:30 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:02:30 noone else? 21:03:18 heh 21:03:23 #info Jonathan Druart 21:03:33 #info 21:03:34 cozy meeting 21:03:39 (more or less aroud) 21:04:31 #info Michael Kuhn (will now keep quiet and listen only) 21:04:35 meeting with 4? 21:04:45 just go super fast 21:05:06 ok 21:05:10 I don't have much to say and it's a bit late here ;) 21:05:19 #topic annoucnments 21:05:20 if it only takes 5 minutes i am here too 21:05:21 same here 21:05:27 so introduce yourself! 21:05:32 any announcements? 21:05:35 hm no i am afraid you will make me chair 21:05:37 not from me 21:05:38 :P 21:05:40 we are doing work on bug 17255 21:05:41 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ 21:05:48 cool! 21:05:51 yay 21:06:07 and have overdrive records being searched via elasticsearch now 21:06:09 #info Catalyst IT working on bug 17255 - updating Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ 21:06:19 is there a timefame for it? 21:06:25 mostly wondering if it could be testable in marseile 21:06:26 rangi: there is still a catmandu 1.x repo somehwere on my server 21:06:34 which will be submitted as patches once elastic is upgraded 21:06:44 before hackfest 21:06:57 so people can use/test it there 21:07:00 nice 21:07:18 moving on? 21:07:20 would be cood to get a patch for the install process 21:07:29 the only other thing is i wont be doing anymore 3.20.x releases except for security 21:07:31 but for latest ES i think you need pretty late catmandu 21:07:51 #info No more 3.20.x releases except for security 21:07:51 drojf: yup 21:08:02 moving on 21:08:09 we got nothing for the next topic 21:08:13 nope 21:08:14 i am going to move to general dev 21:08:14 there was a bug/feature grabbing underscore names 21:08:29 which i thiunk catmandu fixed after i made the repo 21:08:33 #topic General development discussion 21:08:48 kidclamp is not here 21:09:04 i tihnk he wanted to propose some new keywords for makring easy bugs 21:09:06 yeah i think its a good idea, marking them academy is fine 21:09:15 ok 21:09:28 also there is a page on the wiki 21:09:32 #info marking easy bugs 'academy' for beginners is fine 21:09:34 hm? 21:09:42 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help 21:09:47 up date this too 21:10:02 #info you can also update https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help 21:10:04 eg weve done the OMGWTFBBQ one now 21:10:25 :) 21:10:29 we need a new one 21:10:47 ok 21:10:56 anyone interested in the discussion about minified files? 21:10:56 a new search engine 21:11:10 * Joubu has been disconnected 21:11:16 nothing happened ;) 21:11:26 Joubu: interested in discussion about minified files? 21:11:29 right in time for minified things 21:11:40 yeah thats something we need to figure out 21:11:49 i have some concerns 21:11:58 I know that minified means that conflicts are hard to solve 21:11:59 not really cait 21:12:09 * drojf minifies awakeness 21:12:10 i think that's why some devs want to not have them in the repo 21:12:15 but when i understand correctly 21:12:20 i think minify on release 21:12:22 that'd mean that the testers need to run some build tools 21:12:26 make it part of the release process 21:12:32 and we would have to make that super easy 21:12:33 huginn: I installed version 2.4 and with all debs and fails to create the index, I can provide testing for the bug 17255 21:12:34 rsantellan: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:12:49 rsantellan: huginn is a bot 21:13:13 because easy for devs... hard for testers is bad 21:13:18 yes 21:13:58 awkward moment!! 21:13:59 (git hooks that reminify on checkout?) 21:14:07 rsantellan: happens every day 21:14:37 hm also need something for sandboxes 21:14:41 so for anybody I can provide some help in elasticsearch matter 21:14:44 that's my main concern 21:14:57 we can move on now if people want to 21:15:35 yup 21:15:37 #info cait is concerned about change in workflow for testers - should still be easy to test bugs, need tools/instructions for that 21:15:47 ok 21:15:54 #topic Updates from the QA team 21:16:04 Joubu: do you have sth? 21:16:43 i noted 2 bugs on the wiki 21:17:00 #info Bug 15434 - Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:17:00 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:17:10 there was some critique about this being client side 21:17:17 instead of server side 21:17:52 i am hoping we can get to a conclusion on this one 21:17:59 hm come to... 21:18:42 the other is 21:18:53 #info Bug 16126 - Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page (see screenshots attached) 21:18:54 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Signed Off , Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page 21:19:08 which i'd like to get some opionions on 21:19:10 * Joubu has been disconnected again... 21:19:27 sorry but it seems that my box is gettting crazy 21:19:30 the question here is: should the acq funds table be the same on the funds and hte acq start page or should the latter be a more simplified version 21:19:37 * cait hands Joubu duct tape 21:20:43 about bug 15434, I don't really like it, and would like to see a ES version it is not compatible 21:20:54 hmm yep 21:21:00 I don't remember the patch exactly actually 21:21:21 I'd be keen to make it in if it does 21:21:40 about 16126, I don't like it and I don't understand it 21:21:48 the complete view is on another page 21:21:54 sorry, not sure i got the point 21:21:56 can you rephrase? 21:22:11 for the first 21:22:18 which one? :) 21:22:25 the search breadcrumbs 21:22:51 iirc the breadcrumbs is zebra compatible only 21:22:55 ok 21:23:03 the breadcrumbs patch* 21:23:10 so what would be a path forward? 21:24:56 sorry but got disconnected again 21:25:08 I will need to have a look again 21:25:17 for the funds: maybe we shoudl check permissions - can somoene who can# if ES compatible, I can pass QA on it if nobody is against it 21:25:26 i amn not sure about that, but can check some other night 21:25:39 otherwise ask to the author if he is willing to provide a ES version 21:25:54 what about the discussion client/server side? 21:26:26 I don't like it, but don't have a counter patch to provide neither 21:26:32 so if it works... 21:26:38 k 21:26:43 similar for me 21:26:55 i can see server side might be nice... but this would still be an improvement 21:27:00 and it's a real long standing issue 21:27:49 #action Joubu to take a look at ES compatibility of bug 15434 21:27:50 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable 21:27:58 about the funds, it would be good to get an answer from the author 21:28:11 he did not answered, and is not around 21:28:20 #action cait to check on permissions for fund views (bug16126) 21:29:24 true 21:29:25 ok moving on 21:29:36 #topic Koha and Qvarn 21:29:39 rangi: you turn :) 21:29:53 i dont think there are enough people for that to be worthwhile today im afraid 21:31:27 ill re add it, and maybe do a mail in the meantime 21:31:32 hm ok 21:31:45 #action rangi to readd or email about Koha and Qvarn 21:32:00 #topic Set time of next meeting 21:32:05 suggestions? 21:32:06 suggestions are still there 21:32:32 probably something that works for europe next 21:32:49 thenext general meeting is 5 october 21:33:06 the week after is marseille 21:33:22 what abut the 19th? 21:34:12 10 utc? 21:34:12 i guess 10 utc is a good time, but is very early on east coast USA 21:34:31 14 utc? 21:35:10 the general one is at 10 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 21:35:43 Joubu: help? 21:35:44 hmmm... help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. 21:36:53 10utc i could make 21:36:58 ok 21:36:59 14utc i cant, but the USA can 21:37:10 19th ok? 21:37:13 yep 21:37:28 will be too late as well 21:37:39 Joubu: hm? 21:37:51 would have been good to have a dev meeting before the hackfest actually 21:38:02 what about at the hackfest 21:38:05 on the first day 21:38:10 we tired that before 21:38:15 i think it didn<#t really work so well 21:38:38 k 21:38:46 i think it was close to lunch break 21:38:51 might have been the problem :) 21:39:01 we could have a marseille pre meeting? 21:39:06 would you want to organize one? 21:39:33 not really 21:39:45 10 utc ok then? 21:40:05 the work before hackfest i will be too busy to run a dev meeting 21:40:09 if someone else does, fine by me 21:40:19 that is next week 21:40:19 it seems that these meetings don't bring a lot of people 21:40:29 so yes first day of hackfest could be ok 21:40:34 the rest api one was a bit better 21:40:37 i'll be gone for "vacation" 21:40:38 maybe we need to have topic meetings 21:40:51 but can we go for 19th 10 utc for now? 21:40:59 rangi proposed a topic, so that would give him a chance to talk about it 21:41:22 #agreed next meeting will be on 19 October, 10 utc 21:41:29 i am falling asleep :) 21:41:32 we need to end here 21:41:39 #endmeeting