20:04:55 #startmeeting General IRC meeting 4 May 2016 20:04:55 Meeting started Wed May 4 20:04:55 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:04:55 The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_4_may_2016' 20:04:59 #topic Introductions 20:05:06 please introduce yourself with #info! 20:05:24 #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 20:05:38 #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:05:38 #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe Ltd, UK 20:05:41 #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:05:41 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ , Germany 20:05:43 #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library 20:05:49 #info Jonathan Druart 20:06:02 #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba Argentina 20:06:55 today's agenda can be found at: 20:06:56 #info Galen Charlton, ESI, USA 20:07:01 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_4_May_2016 20:07:22 #topic Announcements 20:07:25 bag: ping? 20:07:45 hm some general things maybe - people are probably aware :) 20:08:04 #info We are in feature freeze now - only bug fixes are going to be pushed until release 20:08:43 there was also a lot of work done to fix jenkins - i hope we will see green soon 20:08:54 Joubu: anything to add? 20:09:30 about? 20:09:33 I have just submitted some patches about plack compat 20:09:40 announcements :) 20:09:44 might be good to see them into the next release 20:09:45 we are missing our RM 20:10:16 #info Take a look at patches for better Plack compatibility 20:10:18 #info gmcharlt working on a master package; will be available over the next day or three 20:10:25 thx 20:10:39 i am going to skip update to releases - i think no rmaints available? 20:11:02 Hackfest in Marseille in October 20:11:08 ah thx davidnind 20:11:13 do you have the date on hand for an info? 20:11:14 I have one announcement 20:11:42 http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2016-May/042650.html 20:12:01 #Info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies, India 20:12:03 October, 10th - 14th for the Hackfest 20:12:25 #info Hackfest in Marseille will be October 10th - 15th 20:12:29 thd? 20:12:35 Koha would have much more of my time now if I could obtain a pro-bono or low cost lawyer for my friend's housing court case in New York City 20:13:06 Please see my wiki management proposal for details if you might know someone :) 20:13:32 i don't think we have a lot of lawyers within the koha team 20:14:04 Of course it just a personal appeal for the possibility that someone might know someone. 20:14:57 I am sorry to have to make such an appeal but the welfare of my friend has to come before Koha. 20:15:01 #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT 20:15:38 pauls mail said 10--14 20:15:44 not 15 20:15:54 drojf: isn't hat what i wrote? 20:15:58 nope 20:15:59 ugh 20:16:02 :) 20:16:13 ah it was just your typo, not a wroing info :) 20:16:25 #info Correction: Hackfest in Marseille will be October 10th - 14th (but of course it's nice to stay longer) 20:16:26 s/before Koha/before time for Koha/ 20:16:37 also he said cheese day is every day, so if you are like me, bring a gasmask 20:16:58 and oleonard will be there 20:17:01 if i got that right 20:18:19 yep 20:18:30 #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions 20:18:41 #info be aware, there will be lots of cheese at the Marseille hackfest 20:18:43 ok, moving on? 20:18:52 i'd like to talk elections next :) 20:18:55 hi! 20:19:07 #topic Elections for the 16.11 release team 20:19:10 NOW you guys can talk about important stuff 20:19:22 ha! 20:19:27 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_16.11 20:19:49 we got no release maintainer for stable 20:20:16 which is… less than perfect? ^^ 20:20:24 drojf: You are welcome to volunteer. 20:20:30 yep 20:20:31 I haven't had a chance to volunteer, but I volunteer as tribu- QA for 16.11 20:20:40 thd: thanks, i volunteered for something else 20:20:44 lol 20:20:54 pianohacker: can you add yourself to the wiki page then pleas? and thx! 20:21:14 cait: I will, but may not get a chance right now, so wanted to put myself on the chopping block 20:21:43 if no one else volunteers ill do rmaint for 16.05 20:21:48 rangi++ 20:22:01 ok, so at the moment we are missing rmaint 16.05 and possibly if people want to see it continue 3.20 20:22:20 also documentation manager - but I see that davidnind has put his hat down there now :) 20:22:58 pianohacker: just added you to the wiki page to the QA team 20:23:14 rangi: do you want to get voted in or wait a bit longer? 20:23:27 Happy to help with documentation, not sure if Nicole has just not updated the page... 20:23:40 thanks Joubu 20:23:48 davidnind: so far you are our man for everything :) 20:24:22 so let's start voting RM 20:24:41 hopefully you are just joking drojf ;-) 20:24:49 #startvote Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher (yes,no,abstain) 20:24:49 Unable to parse vote topic and options. 20:24:53 abstain was the right word i hope? 20:24:55 pianohacker: Did nengard miss posting her name for documentation? 20:25:00 davidnind: from what i see in the wiki… no :) 20:25:06 thd: just texted her 20:25:06 #startvote Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher? (yes,no,abstain) 20:25:06 Begin voting on: Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:25:06 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:25:20 #vote yes 20:25:20 #vote yes 20:25:21 #vote yes 20:25:22 #vote yes 20:25:25 #vote yes 20:25:27 #vote yes 20:25:28 #vote yes 20:25:38 #vote yes 20:25:48 #vote yes 20:25:54 nengard just said she volunteers for doc manager for 16.11 20:25:54 is it the same proposal than for the previous release? Which means pianohacker and khall will be in the RM team also? 20:26:14 (don't mean it will change my vote, just want to know :)) 20:26:25 I'm in 20:26:32 bag: is khall? 20:26:45 #vote yes 20:27:04 yes 20:27:06 #info Ed Veal, Bywater Solutions US 20:27:19 #yes 20:27:20 voting for RM - ends ina moment 20:27:31 edveal: #vote in front for it to count :) 20:27:45 I know just a typo. thanks cait 20:27:56 #vote yes 20:28:01 ending vote 20:28:03 #endvote 20:28:03 Voted on "Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher?" Results are 20:28:03 yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, pianohacker, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd, drojf 20:28:05 #agreed Release Manager: Brendan Gallagher 20:28:24 rangi: vote you in or wait? 20:28:41 only wait if you think someone might volunteer 20:29:06 it's suddenly quiet in here :) 20:29:13 we are going to vote on module maintainers next 20:29:38 i feel like thats an experiment that has failed 20:30:09 #startvote RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)? (yes,no,abstain) 20:30:09 Begin voting on: RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:30:09 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:30:34 #vote yes 20:30:35 #vote yes 20:30:38 #vote yes 20:30:39 #vote yes 20:30:42 #vote yes 20:30:44 #vote yes 20:30:45 At some future point, with a larger community module maintainers may become a viable experiment. 20:30:58 #vote yes 20:31:02 #vote yes 20:31:22 we should ping fredericd to know if he is still up for RMaint 3.20 20:31:22 bhghhguhgbhhbyhbngbnhgubhhuhuhuhnbjjjbbnhhnbnbjmnbjhugjhjjujyuuhjhuujjhjjhbghvgvrre 20:31:44 no, I don't think we can permit a cat to be a release maintainer 20:31:52 sorry, felines! 20:31:58 gtdfdgfdfdcfdcffgdfgdhgrthklllmkhjnnjgjhgjhjyutyutyutyyuuy77777huggjhhghggggytf 20:32:03 :) 20:32:03 ginny? :) 20:32:05 ah sorry that was Ginny 20:32:16 ok, ending vote in a moment 20:32:16 CAT SHOULD MAINATIN EVERYTING! 20:32:17 :) 20:32:24 sorry, that was the cat from outside 20:32:40 #endvote 20:32:40 Voted on "RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05)?" Results are 20:32:40 yes (8): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, talljoy, thd, drojf 20:32:45 #agreed RMaints: Julian Maurice (3.22), Chris Cormack (16.05) 20:33:01 i typoed earlier - i think we won't have module maintainers for 16.11 20:33:09 cats++ 20:33:10 so moving on to translation manager 20:33:17 bgkriegel thx for volunteering again! 20:33:24 bgkriegel++ 20:33:29 :) 20:33:40 #startvote Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? (yes,no,abstain) 20:33:40 Begin voting on: Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:33:40 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:33:43 #vote yes 20:33:44 #vote yes 20:33:46 #vote yes 20:33:48 #vote yes 20:33:51 #vote yes 20:33:53 #vote yes 20:34:17 #vote yes 20:34:19 (just emailed fredericd) 20:34:24 #vote yes 20:34:31 #vote yes 20:34:39 #vote yes 20:34:43 Joubu++ 20:34:55 ending vote in a moment 20:35:03 #endvote 20:35:03 Voted on "Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel?" Results are 20:35:03 yes (10): Colinc, Joubu, davidnind, cait, andreashm, edveal, indradg, talljoy, thd, drojf 20:35:05 #agreed Translation Manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel 20:35:17 next is docs manager 20:35:32 i am going to combine nicole and david if noone disagrees :) 20:36:18 #startvote Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help? (yes,no,abstain) 20:36:18 Begin voting on: Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:36:18 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:36:23 #vote yes 20:36:25 #vote yes 20:36:26 #vote yes 20:36:28 #vote yes 20:36:30 #vote yes 20:36:31 #vote yes 20:36:31 #vote yes 20:36:31 #vote yes 20:36:37 #vote yes 20:36:38 #vote yes 20:36:56 ending vote in a moment 20:37:07 #endvote 20:37:07 Voted on "Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help?" Results are 20:37:07 yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd, rangi 20:37:17 #agreed Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard, David Nind to help 20:37:29 There is no volunteer for database documentation manager 20:37:42 i think maybe best if this kind of documentation is included in the patch adding a table or column 20:37:54 +1 20:37:56 #chair drojf 20:37:56 Current chairs: cait drojf 20:38:09 It may be an oversight by nengard. 20:38:10 I think it's part of the requirements 20:38:19 ok so i guess we vote for QA manager and team :) 20:38:24 maybe doesn't need to be a separate role 20:38:51 lets start with QA manager. cait is offering to do it again 20:38:55 #startvote QA Manager: Katrin Fischer? (yes,no,abstain) 20:38:55 Begin voting on: QA Manager: Katrin Fischer? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:38:55 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:38:59 #vote yes 20:39:01 #vote yes 20:39:03 #vote yes 20:39:04 #vote yes 20:39:04 #vote yes 20:39:09 #vote yes 20:39:13 (i did not forget this time ;) ) 20:39:15 #vote yes 20:39:17 What happened to pianohacker on QA? 20:39:18 #vote yes 20:39:20 #vote yes 20:39:20 #vote yes 20:39:56 Nevermind I see him. ;) 20:40:03 everyone voted? will end vote in a moment 20:40:36 ending vote now… 20:40:42 #endvote 20:40:42 Voted on "QA Manager: Katrin Fischer?" Results are 20:40:42 yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, andreashm, Joubu, indradg, edveal, thd, drojf, rangi 20:41:14 and we got a whole QA team to serve under cait… 20:41:25 #startvote QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver (yes,no,abstain) 20:41:25 Unable to parse vote topic and options. 20:41:29 heh 20:41:45 ? 20:41:50 not sure what i broke 20:41:51 it wants a ?... silly thing 20:41:57 ah 20:41:58 ok 20:41:59 … 20:42:19 #startvote QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver? (yes,no,abstain) 20:42:19 Begin voting on: QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:42:19 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:42:26 #vote yes 20:42:26 #vote yes 20:42:27 #vote yes 20:42:27 #vote yes 20:42:28 #vote yes 20:42:28 #vote yes 20:42:28 #vote yes 20:42:32 #vote yes 20:42:34 #vote yes 20:42:35 #vote yes 20:43:26 closing vote in a moment… 20:44:10 #endvote 20:44:10 Voted on "QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver?" Results are 20:44:10 yes (10): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, edveal, indradg, talljoy, thd, drojf 20:44:10 #agreed QA Team: Kyle M Hall, Jonathan Druart, Tomas Cohen Arazi, Marcel de Rooy, Nick Clemens, Jesse Weaver 20:44:23 i think i missed this one… 20:44:24 #agreed QA Manager: Katrin Fischer 20:44:28 heh 20:45:15 next to vote on ... is packaging manager, so I am going to take over again :) 20:45:15 handing back to cait 20:45:35 #startvote Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen? (yes,no,abstain) 20:45:35 Begin voting on: Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:45:35 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:45:41 #vote yes 20:45:41 #vote yes 20:45:48 #vote yes 20:45:50 #vote yes 20:45:51 #vote yes 20:45:53 #vote yes 20:45:53 #vote yes 20:45:56 #vote yes 20:46:09 #vote yes 20:46:16 #vote yes 20:46:41 ending vote in a moment 20:46:57 #vote yes 20:47:06 :) 20:47:08 #endvote 20:47:09 Voted on "Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen?" Results are 20:47:09 yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, indradg, talljoy, Joubu, gmcharlt, thd, rangi 20:47:17 #agreed Packaging Manager: Mirko Tietgen 20:47:18 damn 20:47:21 ^^ 20:47:23 congrats ;) 20:47:25 G'luck drojf 🙂 20:47:27 err, thanks 20:47:27 ok, almost done 20:47:46 eythian: you will have a lot to teach me at the hackfest :) 20:48:08 drojf++ 20:48:11 drojf: we will have liw too? 20:48:11 #startvote Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta? (yes,no,abstain) 20:48:11 Begin voting on: Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:48:11 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:48:19 #vote yes 20:48:20 #vote yes 20:48:22 Sure, I will tell you all the things I wanted to do so you can do them 😀 20:48:24 rangi: that's the other hackfest ;) 20:48:24 #vote yes 20:48:26 #vote yes 20:48:27 #vote yes 20:48:35 #vote yes 20:48:36 #vote yes 20:48:42 #vote yes 20:48:44 #vote yes 20:49:46 #vote yes 20:49:51 ending vote in a moment 20:50:13 #vote yes 20:50:20 eythian: i hope some of them are what i want to do anyway :D 20:50:31 #endvote 20:50:31 Voted on "Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta?" Results are 20:50:31 yes (11): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, edveal, gmcharlt, talljoy, Joubu, thd, drojf, rangi 20:50:44 #agreed Bug Wranglers: Indranil Das Gupta 20:50:57 ok, one more to go 20:50:59 wiki curators 20:52:22 #startvote Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind? (yes,no,abstain) 20:52:22 Begin voting on: Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 20:52:22 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:52:36 #vote yes 20:52:37 #vote yes 20:52:39 #vote yes 20:52:43 #vote yes 20:52:44 #vote yes 20:52:50 #vote yes 20:53:02 #vote yes 20:53:06 #vote yes 20:53:40 (we should add a new role on which we would vote no) 20:54:00 :) 20:54:05 Proprietary Extension Manager? ;) 20:54:09 :) 20:54:15 :) 20:54:23 LiveDVD ;-) 20:54:27 hehe 20:54:37 ending vote in a moment 20:54:43 #vote yes 20:54:46 #endvote 20:54:46 Voted on "Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind?" Results are 20:54:46 yes (9): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, Joubu, indradg, talljoy, edveal, thd 20:55:02 #agreed Wiki curators: Brooke (starting mid-June), Thomas Dukleth, David Nind 20:55:07 we are done! 20:55:30 thx to everyone volunteering! 20:55:58 moving on 20:56:03 ? 20:56:08 y 20:56:10 #topic Hackfest in Berlin 20:56:13 drojf: ? 20:56:31 oh 20:56:33 well 20:57:05 only a little places left 20:57:19 seems to be an awesome event ;) 20:57:34 can#t reeally say much new things 20:58:24 (just got an answer from fredericd: he is up for 16.05, or 3.20 if it's too late) 20:59:09 We had not yet voted on rangi's offer. 20:59:30 ... If I recall correctly. 20:59:32 i outsourced the debian packaging workshop to kohacon for the greater good ;) 20:59:39 we elected, but we can still change 21:00:10 rangi: Are you still here? 21:01:31 If rangi is no longer here, perhaps we could notify him and reopen the question at the next meeting. 21:01:50 next meeting uusally will be after the rlease with the normal schedule 21:01:54 but we could work something out 21:02:05 Yes, true. 21:02:24 i guess one question is on what to do with 3.20 21:02:30 do we still want to maintain it? 21:03:44 oh the quiet 21:03:58 unless somebody is eager to maintain it, two stable releases seems sufficiently 21:04:03 it should be easier than 16.05 21:04:06 Normally current + previous? older releases if there is a maintainer 21:04:31 if we drop it, do we still handle security patches? 21:04:36 it = 3.20 21:05:28 pianohacker: needs someone to do it 21:05:31 only 2 sounds weird to me, it's only 1 year 21:06:04 we normally have 3 21:06:09 18 months 21:06:13 ill do 3.20 21:06:18 fredericd can do 16.05 21:07:07 would that be ok with everyone if we voted on that again? Joubu: certain about fredericd? 21:07:23 fine with me 21:07:28 rangi++ 21:07:32 fine with me 21:08:04 #topic Re-Elections 21:08:05 vote again now 21:08:07 "I was thinking about trying the stable 16.05 version" that's the translatable answer. So I'd say yes 21:09:07 #startvote Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)? (yes,no,abstain) 21:09:07 Begin voting on: Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 21:09:07 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 21:09:13 could someone update the wiki page for me please? 21:09:22 #vote yes 21:09:24 cait: on it 21:09:27 #vote yes 21:09:30 #vote yes 21:09:33 #vote yes 21:09:34 #vote yes 21:09:35 #vote yes 21:10:04 #vote yes 21:10:10 thx indradg 21:10:20 ending vote in a moment 21:10:36 #endvote 21:10:36 Voted on "Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20)?" Results are 21:10:36 yes (7): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, Joubu, indradg 21:10:44 #agreed Change for RMaints: Frederic Demians (16.05), Chris Cormack (3.20) 21:10:51 moving on 21:10:56 #topic KohaCon16 21:10:59 ikourmou: still with us? 21:11:13 yep! 21:11:40 yay1 21:11:41 :) 21:11:46 three weeks away... 21:11:58 we are making the final arrangements 21:12:33 we seem to have a little problem though lately 21:12:34 I guess I was disconnected. Did I miss the revote? 21:12:57 more than 250 people registerd 21:13:08 whoa! 21:13:13 thats a good turnout :) 21:13:17 whoa indeed 21:13:32 and the venue we booked will not be enough for all of them 21:13:32 #info more than 250 people registered 21:13:45 are you making them confirm? (so you get a better idea how many will actually show up) 21:13:54 but, yes, it;s a pleasant headache 21:14:00 my guess is if 250 register, 200ish will show 21:14:08 based on past experienc 21:14:09 e 21:14:12 thd`: yes: rangi for 3.20 and fredericd for 16.05 21:14:32 I hope you are right @rangi 21:15:00 but it wouldn;t hurt to send out please confirm you are attending emails .. just so you have a better idea :) 21:15:17 anyway, we have another auditorium available and we will probably stream the whole event there too 21:15:50 rangi: they send confirm if you don't come emails :) 21:15:52 sent 21:16:07 oh, hmm i dont remember getting one 21:16:12 also more than 80 people stated that they are going to attend the hackfest 21:16:32 wow too! 21:16:34 that would be great 21:16:35 lol wtf 21:16:47 do you have room for that? :) 21:16:49 lots of new devs to be recruited and testers 21:17:09 for that many people i reckon we might want to split into a few rooms 21:17:13 or it will be too loud 21:17:40 I'm a little cautious with the last one, thinking that some (or many of them) don;t have a clear picture fo what a hackfest is... 21:17:44 beginners room, presentations room, projects room 21:17:45 or something 21:18:11 the experienced devs could all take turns doing a few hours in the beginners room 21:18:16 we are going to need your help and experience with this 21:18:16 creating new devs :) 21:19:11 I plan to send an email to the list asking for topics to deal with during the hackfest... 21:20:15 just after the release, we will have hundreds of little bugs to fix :) 21:20:21 we will have the debian packaging tutorial .. i think having a room where people can do tutorials, presentations .. then some rooms where people can work 21:20:23 yep 21:20:27 is a good way to do it 21:20:44 yeah 80 in one room oculd get loud - but nto sure what is doable 21:21:04 i can help with beginners too - but maybe not with setting up installations 21:22:08 i reckon there are enough of us, so that we can take turns 21:22:09 I would also like to ask the hackfest participants to spend some time dealing with the bugs / enhancements that are important for our library / installation. Do you think it;s ok? 21:22:22 i think thats a great idea ikourmou 21:23:02 * cait agrees 21:23:29 Was at a Drupal hackfest in Melbourne last year, over 100 in the room (setup was with 7 or 8 seats at round tables, screen at front), with hackfest volunteers in bright t-shirts working/helping new attendees and hackfest 'manager' keeping to a loose programme 21:23:32 giving back something to the host... sounds very Koha I think? 21:23:52 cait: exactly 21:24:07 :) 21:24:49 ok, thanks for the advice and ideas, the organizing committee will surely take them into account. 21:25:01 perhaps more a flexible programme, rather than 'loose'... 21:25:15 ikourmou: i think we are all very much lookin gforward to the conference - thx for the great work organizing it 21:25:31 ikourmou: feel free to let us know the bug/enh list in advance 21:25:37 yep 21:25:37 ikourmou++ 21:25:48 ikourmou++ 21:26:08 ikourmou++ 21:26:08 we might need some volunteers to chair some sessions, please keep that in mind ;-) 21:26:18 just ask 21:26:25 ikourmou++ 21:26:35 ok, thx cait! 21:27:02 :) 21:27:15 ok, any more questions kohacon? 21:27:25 we have some remaining topics on the agenda 21:27:38 KohaCon17 - no change in proposals, so maybe skip? 21:27:54 voting process... as we are running late, maybe push that too 21:28:05 and a vote on the draft rulles for thd grants committee 21:28:14 is anyone of the funds committee available? 21:28:18 bag? 21:28:36 I'll do it 21:28:41 ah thx gmcharlt 21:28:48 :) 21:28:49 let me change topic 21:29:12 ok 21:29:12 #topic International koha Fund - Draft Rules for THT Grants Committee 21:29:15 #chair gmcharlt 21:29:15 Current chairs: cait drojf gmcharlt 21:29:31 #info Minutes of the 19 April 2016 fundraising committee meeting: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising_Committee_Meeting_19_April_2016 21:29:53 During the meeting, we discussed some changes to the draft rules for the grants subcommittee based on feedback at an earlier general IRC meeting 21:30:15 #info Changes to draft rules: https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Fundraising&action=historysubmit&diff=16342&oldid=16169 21:30:22 so, to enumerate the changes: 21:31:20 - we clarified the wording about contract employees and how they affect the rule that any given organization can have only one member on the subcommittee 21:31:48 - we changed quarter to period, as we don't expect to be reviewing grant applications quarterly (at least, not initially) 21:32:12 - we fixed a reference 21:33:13 #info Current version of grants committee rules: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising#International_Koha_Fund_-_Grants_Committee 21:33:45 so, per the agenda today, I would like to call a community vote on those grant committee draft rules 21:34:12 upon a positive vote, they would then be forwarded to THT for their formal assent (although of course they've been following along during the development of the draft) 21:34:52 so, before I call the vote, does anybody wish to ask questions or discuss? Out of respect to the length of the meeting, I will keep discussion limited to just five minutes 21:35:07 (and if things prove controversial, defer the vote) 21:35:20 gmcharlt++ 21:36:56 hmm looks like no questions - move to vote? 21:37:11 +1 21:37:14 I'll give folks another 30 seconds before calling the vote 21:37:15 (sorry if I am too quick ;) ) 21:37:46 * gmcharlt hums a prestissimo version of the Imperial March from Star Wars 21:38:00 and I'm done humming, and the 30 seconds have passed 21:38:16 :) 21:38:29 #vote Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? (yes,no,abstain) 21:38:36 #startvote Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? (yes,no,abstain) 21:38:36 Begin voting on: Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 21:38:36 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 21:38:58 #vote yes 21:39:00 #vote yes 21:39:04 #vote yes 21:39:05 #vote yes 21:39:49 #vote yes 21:40:00 #vote yes 21:40:03 I will hold the vote open for two more minutes 21:40:15 #vote yes 21:40:19 #vote yes 21:41:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU 21:41:45 #vote yes 21:42:01 #endvote 21:42:01 Voted on "Shall the draft rules for the Grants Committee be approved and formally forwarded to THT?" Results are 21:42:01 yes (9): Colinc, bgkriegel_, davidnind, cait, andreashm, thd`, bag, indradg, gmcharlt 21:42:42 #agreed The draft rules of the Grants Committe of the Koha International Fund have the assent of the Koha community and will be formally forwarded to THT 21:43:26 there is another matter to discuss, but given the time, I'll push it out to the next general meeting: changing article 4 to permit majority vote rather than consensus 21:43:34 * gmcharlt hands the meeting back to cait 21:44:04 ok 21:44:15 i thnk given the time we will push actions to next 21:44:28 as i see some things there noted ashomework and have some doubts people did their homework :) 21:44:39 next meeting 21:44:45 #topic Next Meeting 21:44:58 wednesday... 21:45:14 wednesday June 8? 21:45:20 the week after kohacon 21:45:48 10 utc 21:46:00 Is it 10 UTC next time? 21:46:24 cait++\ 21:46:26 yep - sounds good to me 21:46:39 * cait waits for vetos 21:47:01 #agreed Next meeting will be held on June 8, 10 UTC 21:47:04 #endmeeting