21:02:09 #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 29 November 2017 21:02:09 Meeting started Wed Nov 29 21:02:09 2017 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:09 The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_29_november_2017' 21:02:10 I will lurk 21:02:14 #topic Introductions 21:02:15 #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:02:25 #info Jonathan Druart 21:02:29 #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University 21:02:46 #info Ed Veal, McKinney Public 21:03:26 #info Liz Rea, Catalyst NZ 21:03:57 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_29_November_2017 21:04:02 there is no agenda basically 21:04:07 #topic Announcements 21:04:09 meeting? 21:04:09 i think meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then 21:04:10 Anyone have something? 21:04:13 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:04:17 sorry, just got home from a trip 21:04:20 cait: just in time :) 21:04:32 #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst 21:04:53 #topic Update from the Release Manager (18.05) 21:05:14 #info Koha 17.11 has been released on November 28th 21:05:29 confetti 21:05:29 o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 21:05:35 #info 17.12 cycle is going to start quite soon 21:05:37 more confetti 21:05:38 o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 21:05:46 Joubu++! 21:05:52 joubu++ 21:06:04 17.12? 21:06:21 See the proposal to know what is coming next https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal_for_RM_18.05_joubu 21:06:30 the big push? 21:06:31 :) 21:06:34 17.12 is dev cycle and will become 18.05 when released 21:06:35 we number it 17.12 until the release when it becomes 18.05 greenjimll 21:06:39 until it gets to 18.05, it's development version 17.12 21:06:45 ^.^ 21:06:46 Ah right. 21:06:55 guess you understood :) 21:07:19 can I just say I highly approve of this new numbering system. 21:07:27 I have nothing much to add to the proposal, I will certainly work a lot with Nick as he will be RMaints and RM assistant 21:07:28 it's good. Nice work everybody. 21:07:40 cait is back as QAM 21:07:59 18.05 is promising :) 21:08:06 heh 21:08:13 I put some things i want to do in my proposal 21:08:36 I will try to get some things started the next few days 21:09:01 I communicated with Bernardo about the translations (manual), but not sure it has been done correctly 21:09:42 I think he did not retrieve the po files I updated to match the "new format" 21:09:59 hmm yeah 21:10:28 so the new version of the manual is not ready to be translated yet, but should be soon (hopefully) 21:10:36 #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 21:10:45 i have started a wiki page for the manual translators 21:11:09 rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 21:11:10 rmaints? 21:11:11 well, rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 21:11:16 great :D 21:11:20 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_the_Koha_Manual 21:11:29 #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 21:12:00 sorry cait 21:12:18 no, the point is that I updated the po files to remove all the weird stuffs from the old manual 21:12:46 ok 21:12:50 (I am tired) 21:12:57 the example is correct indeed 21:13:10 phew 21:13:33 I've updated the release maintenance page a bit 21:13:57 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance 21:14:15 and will send an email to rangi with bugs I was still hoping for a rebase or reply :) 21:14:22 yes, we may need to update RMaints with the new workflows we put in place during the last release 21:15:18 And I need to share some of the stuffs I wrote that could be useful for RMaints as well (pre-push git hook for instance) 21:15:21 and pleaaaase do string freezes 21:15:40 #info RMaints please do string freezes! 21:16:07 thx :) 21:17:00 cait: could you sent an email to RMaints with the link to the wiki + highligh the small changes we did + STRING FREEZE! ? 21:17:08 (and cc me) 21:17:17 i can do that 21:17:22 and also the link to the update po files form 21:17:28 i didn't put it on the wiki to not make spammers find it 21:18:02 thx 21:18:07 rangi: keys should be sent to you? 21:18:24 well i guess you only need kidclamp's 21:18:27 :) 21:18:30 he sent it 21:18:33 already 21:18:40 #topic Updates from the QA team 21:18:54 no update from me yet :) 21:19:00 have to catch up with things first, someone else here? 21:19:25 QA team is quite small, but we have 2 new guys, alex_a and josef_moravec 21:19:29 yep i have them 21:20:07 #info QA team is quite small, but we have 2 new guys, alex_a and josef_moravec 21:20:08 #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 21:20:13 something? 21:20:14 something is sketchy 21:20:17 Would people be adverse to me nudging some of the old bugs in Bugzilla to see if they are still needed/wanted/workable on? As part of "bug wrangling"? 21:20:57 that's a great thing to do. 21:21:12 For example I've been looking at old REOPENED cases recently. 21:21:15 it might be good to always add some info or a question, to trigger things 21:21:18 not just a ping :) 21:21:35 greenjimll++ 21:21:48 Yes, good point. In some cases I might be able to even slip a patch in. :-) 21:21:53 yes definitely useful 21:22:08 OK, consider them ripe for wrangling. :-) 21:22:12 and group them, mark as duplicate, etc. 21:23:18 We have 2 days of hackfest in Buenos Aires (tomorrow and Friday) 21:23:36 Around 15 people will attend, mostly librarians 21:23:46 cool! 21:24:16 awesome :) 21:24:34 is ther esomething specific you want to work on? 21:25:01 mark Academy bugs? 21:25:09 that would be great 21:25:30 aleisha is looking after the students next academy, in late january 21:25:32 I will present the 9 new features of 17.11 (shortly) and then we certainly present how to signoff patches 21:25:33 (I have no idea what we are going to do actually!) 21:25:33 we=tcohen and me 21:25:33 of course all of that is just an excuse to share some beers 21:25:44 yes please! 21:26:21 :) 21:26:30 #topic Set time of next meeting 21:27:38 13 December 2017, 13 UTC? 21:27:44 14? 21:27:45 14 is fine by me 21:27:54 i wont be there but fine by me :) 21:28:10 i tihnk it's ok for me 21:28:11 14th December or 14:00UTC? 21:28:21 14UTC 21:28:28 Fine for me. 21:28:55 #info Next meeting: 13 December 2017, 14 UTC 21:29:01 #endmeeting