21:07:39 <cait> #startmeeting General IRC meeting 2 May 2018 21:07:39 <huginn> Meeting started Wed May 2 21:07:39 2018 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:07:39 <huginn> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:07:39 <huginn> The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_2_may_2018' 21:07:46 <cait> #topic Introductions 21:07:46 <wahanui> #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:07:53 <cait> please introduce yourself using #info 21:07:56 <georgew> #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 21:08:10 <cait> #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_2_May_2018 Today's agenda 21:08:13 <caroline> #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada 21:08:17 <cait> #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:08:19 <davidnind> #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 21:08:24 <wizzyrea> #info liz rea Catalyst NZ 21:08:26 <ClintD> #info Clint Deckard, Anact NZ 21:08:29 <rangi> #info Chris Cormack Catalyst NZ 21:08:32 <bgkriegel_> #info Bernardo Gonzalez, Cordoba, Argentina 21:08:57 <Marti-Fuerst> #info Marti Fuerst, Huntsville-Madison County Public Library, Huntsville, Alabama, USA 21:09:02 <cait> nice :) 21:09:13 <cait> giving a little more time, then moving on 21:09:20 <tcohen> #info Tomas Cohen Arazi 21:09:37 <thd> #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 21:09:55 <cait> moving on 21:10:00 <cait> #topic Announcements 21:10:13 <cait> #link http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ Dashboard - 20 days until release today 21:10:40 <cait> We are really close to release day now already, we are in hard feature freeze now and will enter string freeze on Friday 21:11:08 <wizzyrea> neat 21:11:13 <caroline> Friday till when? 21:11:17 <cait> #link http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-18-05-release-dates-td5971005.html Release dates 18.05 21:11:33 <cait> caroline: short before release, translations are one of the last things pushed 21:12:30 <caroline> So the 18 is still good? 21:12:38 <cait> should be 21:12:45 <caroline> The french team is having a traslation blitz 21:12:48 <cait> bgkriegel_: do you know exactly? 21:13:34 <cait> We are still looking for some roles on the next release team 21:13:49 <cait> #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11 Roles for 18.11 21:13:54 <bgkriegel_> I'll will update strings a couple of times before relase 21:14:01 <cait> bgkriegel++ 21:14:20 <cait> we are still short a documentation team and 2 release maintainers 21:14:43 <cait> please consider signing up! Especially documentation team needs more hands... well... than zero :) way more hands 21:14:46 <tcohen> and packaging manager 21:14:47 <caroline> what do those imply? 21:14:56 <cait> correct 21:15:13 <cait> #info Still looking for release maintainers, packaging manager and documentation team - please consider signing up! 21:15:22 <cait> caroline: the maintaines or documentation? 21:15:23 <georgew> I will pass along the need for documentation team members at the next koha-us meeting 21:15:28 <caroline> docs 21:15:30 <cait> thx georgew! 21:15:43 <cait> it basically says that you will be working on the manual 21:16:13 <caroline> I'm trying to collaborate right now, but is it something more like what Lee is doing? 21:16:33 <cait> not necessarily, it would depend on the team how they organize 21:16:45 <cait> i am willing ot help with the more technical where possible 21:17:05 <cait> davidnind++ and LeeJ++ have been adding tons of tasks to a Taiga kanban for people to work on 21:17:28 <cait> i am currently working on separating the files a bit more and reorganizing 21:17:36 <cait> next i think would be adding all the new things 21:17:37 <caroline> I'm willing to be officially on the team 21:17:39 <cait> davidnind: about right? 21:18:02 <cait> caroline: :) 21:18:02 <davidnind> I am - 21:18:40 <cait> -? 21:18:40 <wahanui> hmmm... - is nengard's brain just tired or does this site lack information on what the heck it means? http://libraryrenewal.org 21:18:56 <davidnind> lots of writing to do for the manual - tasks list feels a little overwhelming at the moment, but we'll make some progress before the release I think 21:19:10 <tcohen> step by step 21:19:16 <cait> yep, the only way to do it 21:19:34 <cait> if someone wants to write, i am willing to help making patches 21:19:40 <wizzyrea> "how do you eat a whale?" "one bite at a time" 21:19:44 <thd> Documentation should be a patch along with the code for the functionality :) 21:19:44 <cait> i am not a native speaker, so happy to pair up with one :) or have you correct my writing 21:19:59 <caroline> wizzyrea: lol! 21:20:03 <cait> thd: we have a huge backlog from old releases, don't think that's going to happen soon :) 21:20:07 <davidnind> I think LeeJ's focus for us is on documenting the new features then working on the other tasks as we get time 21:20:41 <tcohen> cait: well, we introduced the requirement for release notes description, that shoul dhelp 21:20:42 <cait> i am splitting in order to get the translation files a bit smaller too 21:20:44 <cait> easier to handle 21:21:20 <wizzyrea> I think it will load more nicely and faster if it's split too 21:21:28 <cait> and the TOCs are shorter 21:21:35 <cait> https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/us/22 is where i am at 21:21:42 <cait> feel free to disagree/add others 21:21:44 <cait> :) 21:22:15 <cait> #info documentation team and anyone who wants to join it will work on adding new features/enh to the manual 21:22:46 <cait> anything else to add? 21:23:17 <cait> we drifted off a little, but i'd like to suggest having a separate election meeting in 2 weeks 21:23:19 <cait> or 1 week? 21:23:19 <wahanui> i guess 1 week is a bit short ;) 21:23:26 <cait> before 22nd :) 21:25:00 <davidnind> happy with either 21:25:15 <cait> 16 may? 16 utc? 21:25:19 <davidnind> two meetings next week on same day - dev meeting + documentation 21:25:31 <caroline> next week there are already two irc meetings i think, so 2 weeks would be better 21:26:01 <cait> ok, so stick with 16th then 21:26:19 <thd> The 23rd should not be fatal 21:26:37 <thd> 13 UTC please 21:27:09 <davidnind> 16 UTC https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting+18-11+Election&iso=20180516T1600 21:27:30 <davidnind> 13 UTC https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting+18-11+Election&iso=20180516T1300 21:27:45 <cait> i hink nz is out either way 21:27:55 <cait> hard to find a good one 21:28:27 <cait> 13 UTC ok for people otherwise? for europe it would work well i think 21:28:48 <cait> and i htink for US 21:28:50 <cait> mostly 21:29:02 <thd> Would NZ be out with UTC 16? 21:29:08 <cait> yes 21:29:09 <caroline> eastern us/canada is good, its like 9am 21:29:29 <cait> basically everything that works for europe doesn't work well for NZ i think 21:29:52 <davidnind> yes - NZ = 4am, but pcan put a note on agenda or roles page I guess 21:30:04 <cait> #info A general IRC meeting will be held in 2 weeks time for elections, 16 May 2018, 13 UTC 21:30:05 <cait> yep 21:30:11 <thd> It is hardly as if there are contested seats in the election. 21:30:12 <cait> you can alway sdo that to make your opinion known for a vote 21:30:51 <cait> #info Please feel free to add comments/vote on the apologies section of the agenda wiki page if you can't attend 21:30:56 <cait> ok, moving on? 21:30:57 <thd> When we do have an issue of real contest we have had a vote over several days 21:31:22 <cait> #topic Update on releases 21:31:30 <cait> RM? 21:31:34 <cait> Joubu? 21:31:34 <wahanui> rumour has it Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly 21:31:37 <cait> RMaints? 21:31:37 <wahanui> rumour has it RMaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 21:31:47 <cait> trying to ping them 21:31:52 <rangi> 16.11 is retired 21:32:07 <cait> what's it doing now with all the free time? 21:32:08 <davidnind> Has put in apologies - update from dev meeting is here: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_25_april_2018.2018-04-25-21.02.log.html 21:32:24 <cait> thx davidnind 21:32:43 <cait> #info For update on 18.05 see http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_25_april_2018.2018-04-25-21.02.log.html 21:32:48 <cait> #info 16.11 is retired 21:33:06 <cait> there are no othe rtopics on the agenda, anything to add? 21:34:22 <cait> just quickly looking up how to do the ending so that the auto-creation of th enew wiki page works right 21:34:27 <davidnind> nothing to add from me...:) 21:34:54 <cait> #info Next meeting: 16 May 2018, 13 UTC 21:35:06 <cait> I don't chair so often anymore, always forget :) 21:35:12 <cait> ok, ending the meeting hten - thx for being here! 21:35:20 <cait> #endmeeting