13:00:48 #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 4 December 2019 13:00:48 Meeting started Wed Dec 4 13:00:48 2019 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00:48 The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_4_december_2019' 13:01:01 #topic Introductions 13:01:08 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_4_December_2019 13:01:22 #info Jonathan Druart 13:01:40 #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 13:01:41 wahanui: not around? 13:01:41 i don't know, joubu 13:01:42 #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Athens, OH 13:01:56 #info Joonas Kylmälä 13:02:24 rmaints? 13:02:24 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 13:02:24 rmaints is, like, fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea 13:02:27 qa_team? 13:02:27 qa_team is cait alex_a jajm khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen rangi 13:02:30 need to update that 13:02:45 It should be a quick meeting as the agenda is empty 13:02:46 forget qa_team 13:02:46 cait: I forgot qa_team 13:02:50 #topic Announcements 13:03:03 Anyone have something? 13:03:10 qa_team is cait khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen kohaputti kidclamp 13:03:14 qa_team 13:03:17 qa_team? 13:03:17 i heard qa_team was cait khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen kohaputti kidclamp 13:03:49 #info Koha 19.11 is out! 13:03:53 #topic Update from the Release manager (20.05) 13:04:03 ashimema is not around, but let a note 13:04:22 #info 19.11 was released a little late, caused by a wait on both security patches being pushed to stable branches and a loss of contact with the packaging manager. Generally, RM is happy with the release! 13:04:28 #info ashimema++ 13:04:34 thanks dude :) 13:04:49 #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 13:05:23 #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 13:05:24 I guess not, they did not start yet 13:05:31 #topic Updates from the QA team 13:05:48 I think preparation has begun tho - RMaints 13:06:19 Joubu will change the dashboard to show all the major bugs - I hope it will make people clean up :) 13:06:51 We have quite some new names in the NSO and QA lists - please keep an eye out for people starting out and help them along! 13:06:55 rmaints are in the process of taking over today ;) 13:07:00 I'm still looking for my first QA patch to do 13:07:12 * ashimema isn't really here.. company meeting in full flow 13:07:26 SO is a bit high, but that's to be expected because of the release etc. with 79 atm, NSO is almost 220... we need more people there 13:07:58 ashimema: can your ghost tell us the schedule before pushing features agan? :) 13:08:25 ? 13:08:25 I encourage people to ask for signoffs. I think if testers know the author is around and eager they'll be more likely to take something on 13:08:28 at the moment we are still focusing on bugs and clean-up after the release, still a bit early to get back feedback from testers in the wild 13:08:36 oh.. yeah 13:08:46 kohaputti: if you are looking for something easy you can pick bug 24136 13:08:46 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24136 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page 13:08:56 oleonard: I like the thought - what would you thimk woudl be the best way to do it? 13:09:04 Joubu, I will check it out! 13:09:05 I think usually people don't want to spam... but I have a few sitting bugs too 13:09:17 at the moment Lucas is trying to catch up on 19.05.. so I'm trying to give him as much time as I can before pushing too much 13:09:20 cait: I would say ask here in IRC or on the dev list 13:09:23 kohaputti: if you are looking for something tricky, I can certainly find something for you :) 13:09:28 lol 13:09:54 #info We encourage people to ask for testers on the dev list or on IRC 13:09:59 concentrating on priority bugs for at least a couple of weeks.. then would like to broaden around xmas and start pushing features early jan 13:10:48 priority bugs? 13:10:55 RM_priority? 13:11:00 * ashimema should highlight if you're asking for testers the test plans need to be good.. 13:11:05 #info Concentrating on priority bugs for next 2 weeks, after that slowsly starting to push new features/enh again, full speed in January 13:11:18 there's nothing worse than being asked to test and then going to the bug and having no idea what its trying to do 13:11:21 yeah, we were just discussing this earlier 13:11:28 * ashimema is terrible for that.. needs to take his own advice 13:11:43 #info Remember to include good test plans, before asking someone to test your patches! 13:11:45 The test plans should be good even if you don't ask for testers... 13:12:05 priority wise I'm thinking critical/major etc rather than RM_priiority for now 13:12:06 if the patch comes from me and there is no test plan, it's expected. It means you need to understand what the patch does, reading the diff 13:12:08 well switching NSO is asking.. 13:12:17 +1 13:12:24 Joubu: then put "read the diff"? :) 13:12:31 a note at least is nice 13:12:40 Yes I agree there should be something 13:12:43 not only us looking at things, others too 13:13:03 I've preached people should feel free to FQA for patches without test plan at conferences... so there is a danger there 13:13:23 Joubu: do you have something to add for QA? 13:13:29 nope 13:13:35 move on? 13:13:38 #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 13:13:53 last minute addition? 13:14:10 closing then 13:14:11 #topic Set time of next meeting 13:14:30 15 days or 1 month? 13:14:39 usually 14 13:14:43 but that might get us close to christmas 13:14:48 18th 13:14:50 not too bad 13:15:10 Next meeting: 18 December 2010, 21 UTC? 13:15:36 works for me 13:15:58 I hope the electricity will work for me from California. 13:16:06 well.. 2019 ;) 13:16:07 * ashimema wishes he had a time machine 13:16:14 that was quick 13:16:20 #info Next meeting: 18 December 2019, 21 UTC 13:16:36 switched from 2020 to 2010... 13:16:37 thanks for stepping in Joubu 13:16:43 #endmeeting