20:06:40 <caroline> #startmeeting General IRC meeting 2 September 2020 20:06:40 <huginn> Meeting started Wed Sep 2 20:06:40 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06:40 <huginn> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:06:40 <huginn> The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020' 20:06:45 <caroline> chair cait 20:06:52 <cait> with # :) 20:06:59 <caroline> #chair cait 20:06:59 <huginn> Current chairs: cait caroline 20:07:01 <caroline> sorry! 20:07:14 <davidnind> #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_2_September_2020 20:07:26 <caroline> #topic Introductions 20:07:31 <cait> we can do it all together 20:07:33 <caroline> (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) 20:07:33 <cait> #chair davidnind 20:07:33 <huginn> Current chairs: cait caroline davidnind 20:07:43 <donnab> #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater Solutions 20:07:46 <oleonard> #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:07:46 <cait> #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:07:49 <caroline> #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 20:08:05 <davidnind> #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:08:30 <lisettelatah> #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Idaho, USA 20:08:31 <kathryn> #info Kathryn Tyree, Catalyst IT, New Zealand 20:08:46 <tcohen> #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 20:09:51 <edveal> #info Ed Veal, McKinney Public Library 20:09:51 <caroline> #topic Announcements 20:10:11 <caroline> anything to annouce? 20:10:33 <cait> not from me 20:10:45 <caroline> there is no specific agenda point for kohacon 20:10:51 <cait> yep, just noticed too 20:10:52 <caroline> is there anything new? 20:11:00 <cait> kathryn: maybe? 20:11:07 <kathryn> Kia ora, 46 days away eep! 20:11:16 <caroline> yas! 20:11:35 <kathryn> #info We need people to register please regardless if they are coming in person or online 20:11:45 * cait is registered virtually :) 20:11:50 <kathryn> :) 20:12:12 <kathryn> #info the programme looks excellent, we're starting to work on some online social events which you'll hear more about soon 20:12:17 <caroline> is there a way to check if we're registered? I'm pretty sure I did it, but now i'm not sure anymore 20:12:31 <thd> #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:12:42 <kathryn> just ask, we don't mind caroline 20:13:21 <lisettelatah> The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on our website. 20:13:26 <lisettelatah> http://koha-us.org/learn/conferences/onlinetogether2020/ 20:14:59 <cait> thx lisettelatah 20:15:01 <caroline> lisettelatah: this is this month right? 20:15:15 <cait> #info The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on their website 20:15:25 <lisettelatah> yes, the dates are September 22nd-24th 20:15:26 <cait> #link http://koha-us.org/learn/conferences/onlinetogether2020/ 20:15:42 <kathryn> Also Alex from Catalyst and Jessie at Bywater did a webinar last week, which has about 10,000 views so far - if that keeps up we can expect a lot of engagement in our online events, during and after 20:15:48 <cait> #info dates are September 22nd-24th 20:15:49 <kathryn> I need to find the link... 20:16:48 <davidnind> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BUsdC61B6Y 20:17:06 <kathryn> thank you davidnind, I found every other link possible :) 20:18:09 <kathryn> #info the above link is for the International Koha Webinar kindly hosted by the North Eastern Hill University last week 20:18:54 <kathryn> (no more from me) 20:19:30 <caroline> #topic Update on releases 20:19:45 <caroline> Joubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). 20:19:45 <huginn> 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables 20:20:00 <caroline> re: 20.11 20:20:04 <cait> #info oubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). 20:20:12 <cait> hm, J went missing... 20:20:26 <oleonard> I didn't see that Bug 20271 had gone into 'in discussion' 20:20:45 <cait> missed it too, bit behind there 20:21:11 <caroline> anything from our rmaints? 20:21:25 <cait> rmaints? 20:21:25 <wahanui> lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! 20:21:26 <caroline> I saw that there was a tiny rmaint meeting the other day :D 20:21:38 <caroline> tuxayo said he wouldn't be here 20:21:40 <cait> #info congratulations to the well coordinated security releases! 20:21:42 <kathryn> Aleisha asked me to pass this along: 20:22:00 <tcohen> aleisha++ 20:22:03 <tcohen> tuxayo++ 20:22:08 <tcohen> lukeG++ 20:22:12 <tcohen> Joubu++ 20:22:16 <cait> mtj++ 20:22:19 <tcohen> mtj++ 20:22:27 <tcohen> team_work++ 20:22:32 <cait> aleisha++ tuxayo++ lukeG++ 20:22:35 <cait> balance :) 20:22:37 <kathryn> #info Aleisha would like to note that the wiki needs work on security release guidance, but the team worked well together to get it out 20:23:04 <cait> if there are any issues, please feel free to add questions or anything that was missing 20:23:11 <tcohen> there will be a new security release soon, so we'll see what we've learnt :-D 20:23:11 <cait> i think the current write up dates back to me 20:23:46 <cait> #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Coordinated_security_releases 20:24:15 <kathryn> cait It sounded like there were some changes/discussions by email maybe, I don't know all the details sorry 20:24:48 <cait> that's ok - we need constant improvement 20:24:53 <kathryn> of course! 20:24:57 <tcohen> better each time :-D 20:25:21 <cait> as you can tell from the version noted there (17.05) it's been around a while :) 20:25:35 <kathryn> yep! 20:26:12 <caroline> #topic Encourage community sign-offs 20:26:21 <caroline> #info At the moment the QA queue is emptying out while the numbers in "needs Signoff" are rising steadily. We should discuss ways to actively encourage sign-offs and testing. 20:26:35 <cait> that's from me 20:27:04 <cait> as you can tell... having the qa queue at 6 or even 5 was a pretty nice feeling, but it's NOT NORMAL :) 20:27:24 <cait> I think we have a problem with the SO queue right now 20:27:49 <cait> i was hoping we could brainstorm a bit to see if we can come with some things 20:28:02 <davidnind> The dashboard: https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 20:28:52 <cait> maybe we could think of having anothe rtesting event? 20:29:12 <cait> the webinar style ones were a pretty big hit the last time we had a testing day 20:29:13 <tcohen> I think we haven't been focused on some big things 20:29:17 <cait> and... we got some sign offs 20:29:19 <tcohen> that demand hours 20:29:31 <caroline> there is something on sept 24 with koha-us 20:29:46 <cait> lisettelatah: still around maybe? 20:29:49 <lisettelatah> Yes 20:30:20 <lisettelatah> we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. 20:30:24 <cait> looking for somoene to promote testing and sign offs at the US event :) 20:30:32 <cait> awesome 20:30:54 <davidnind> lisettelatah++ 20:31:00 <tcohen> lisettelatah++ 20:31:16 <CrispyBran> bug-a-palooza sounds so Americany 20:31:16 <cait> #info Koha US/lisettelatah: we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. 20:31:26 <cait> it is... but in a nice way kinda to me 20:31:34 <ashimema[m]> sorry I'm late 20:31:37 <lisettelatah> The rest of the day we are wanting to keep doing testing and also encourage discussion of bugs that line up with our Special Interest Groups (Webdev, acquisitions, etc) and try and get more signoffs and also discussions. 20:31:48 <cait> ashimema[m]: quite right to help with ideas on improving bug flow 20:32:02 <CrispyBran> We are all about making up words or re-using parts of words. 20:32:13 <cait> lisettelatah: comments/questions on bugs are great too 20:32:28 * ashimema[m] reads back a bit 20:33:15 <caroline> Test plans are a big part for me... I was looking for easy-ish bugs to SO for our new employees, and I had to skip a couple that didn't have good test plans 20:33:26 <cait> definitely 20:33:36 <cait> asking for a better test plan is totally valid too 20:33:46 <cait> if somehing looks to hard to test, feel free to tell the devs 20:33:52 <caroline> ok I'll keep that in mins 20:33:54 <caroline> mind 20:33:54 <thd> lisettlelatah: Will the third day conference be recorded in some way for later access and review? 20:35:40 <lisettelatah> The Sandboxes demo at the start will be. Since the rest will mostly be more freeform than the other recordings we weren't planning on it, but if people think it would be helpful I'll bring it up at our next meeting. 20:36:16 <cait> #info We are in need of more testers and sign-offs, please help us out! 20:37:13 <cait> I don't have anymore.. maybe we need to keep thinking about it 20:37:22 <caroline> It'll be interesting to see how the bug-a-palooza will go, maybe it's something we could do on a regular basis? 20:37:42 <cait> we used to have gbsd = global bug squashing days 20:37:48 <caroline> like stream an intro and then have a bug squash 20:37:58 <cait> yeah 20:38:00 <lukeG> I will try to be better about signing off on things! 20:38:02 <caroline> did the last one go well? 20:38:06 <cait> i think KohaCon also plans for some kind of virtual hackfest 20:38:14 <thd> In general it would be helpful to have explanations of X in various formats including video if it can be done and better persisted on Youtube or some such place than in a less accessible Zoom silo. 20:38:30 <cait> caroline: i tihnk the last event we had went well, but there also was a bug squash session from bywater 20:38:36 <cait> so that combination seems to be a good idea 20:38:48 <kathryn> Kohacon hack fest "DIY" is Sat-Sun NZ time22-23 Oct 20:39:13 <kathryn> We're naming it DIY to encourage non developers to come too :) 20:39:29 <cait> i like it :) 20:40:00 <ashimema[m]> +1 20:40:24 <cait> moving on? 20:40:28 <caroline> sure 20:40:31 <kathryn> Btw, DIY means do it yourself 20:40:43 <caroline> #topic Actions from last meeting 20:40:59 <caroline> the only action point from last meeting is caroline will change the message in the manual saying that the staff side doesn't work with IE 20:41:12 <caroline> and I scrambled earlier to see if I had done it hehe XD 20:41:22 <caroline> yes i did https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/blob/master/source/intro.rst 20:41:35 <davidnind> caroline++ 20:41:50 <caroline> with oleonard's help to make sure the english was ok 20:42:02 <cait> caroline++ oleonard++ :) 20:42:26 <caroline> alright, so only point left is next meeting 20:42:37 <caroline> #topic set time of next meeting 20:42:58 <caroline> october 7? 20:43:08 <cait> we probably are missing a bit chance tonight ot make some radical decisions :) 20:43:21 <cait> sounds good 20:43:23 <caroline> like? 20:43:23 <wahanui> like is it possible to translate to all calendar systems you use from one calendar system 20:43:42 <caroline> what kind of radical decisions did you want to make ? lol 20:43:45 <oleonard> wahanui is down for radical change 20:44:33 <kathryn> I approve teleporting you all to Kohacon 20:44:37 <cait> yeah :) 20:44:38 <caroline> do we keep the meeting at this time for kohacon updates? 20:44:40 <cait> +1! 20:44:46 <kathryn> I would really appreciate that! 20:44:58 <cait> as we get so close that makes sense to me 20:45:14 <kathryn> it's in our team calendar now :) 20:45:35 <caroline> #info Next meeting: 7 October 2020, 20 UTC 20:45:40 <caroline> #endmeeting