15:00:54 #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 April 2021 15:00:54 Meeting started Wed Apr 14 15:00:54 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:54 The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_april_2021' 15:01:00 #topic Introductions 15:01:09 #info Jonathan Druart 15:01:12 #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 15:01:15 #chair ashimema 15:01:15 Current chairs: Joubu ashimema 15:01:22 #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 15:01:26 #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 15:01:30 #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 15:01:38 qa_team? 15:01:38 rumour has it qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 15:01:40 rmaints? 15:01:40 rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 15:02:01 #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 15:02:27 #topic Announcements 15:02:32 Anyone have something? 15:03:24 Nope.. 15:03:26 #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 15:03:31 Release dates for 21.05 will be publish soon, 21.05.00 should be expected for May 28th. 15:03:37 not far from release now I suppose 15:03:41 Don't expected freshly published big things to be part of 21.05, and please focus on what is in the queue already. 15:03:49 do you have release timeline for May Joubu? 15:03:50 It would be great to see some progress on the roadmap topics and the RM priorities: 15:03:55 oh.. and the roles page is open 15:03:59 that could be announced 15:04:08 * QA needed on bug 22544, bug 26703, bug 27623, bug 27624 and bug 27625 15:04:08 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move C4:NewsChannels to Koha namespace 15:04:09 * Help QA failures on bug 14957 15:04:09 * ashimema was a bit slow off the mark there 15:04:09 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, Signed Off , We should reconsider best practice for our title elements 15:04:11 * SO + QA on bug 27526 15:04:11 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27623 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove pl-PL installer data 15:04:12 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove ru-RU installer data 15:04:13 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27625 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove uk-UA installer data 15:04:14 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import 15:04:15 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl 15:04:17 There are also a bunch a major bugfixes waiting for QA, and 7 criticals (!) 15:04:36 #info QA needed on bug 22544, bug 26703, bug 27623, bug 27624 and bug 27625 15:04:45 #info Several majors and criticals in the queue right now 15:04:48 The roles for 21.11 are opened - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.05 15:04:57 #info The roles for 21.11 are opened - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.05 15:05:09 We are missing a release maintainer for 21.05 and it would be nice to see the QA team growing a bit more. 15:05:18 Are there any priorities still needing sign off? 15:05:36 Yippee, build fixed! 15:05:36 Congratulations! 15:05:36 Project Koha_Master_D11 build #260: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/260/ 15:05:49 You were working through all the title and header level bugs weren't you henryb.. 15:05:50 henryb: there is only 1 major waiting for SO 15:06:12 #info errata, previous link: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11 15:06:24 indeed! 15:06:28 that tree is high importance to me.. makeing sure they make sense again after the first bug makes them a bit all over the place as a first step 15:07:01 I've created a new 'IRC_meeting_facilitator' role. I described what I expected from the role there - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#IRC_meeting_facilitator 15:07:11 Let me know if you are interested in doing it, I will be happy to help! 15:07:32 That's all for me 15:08:08 any questions? 15:08:17 ashimema: sure, I'd lost track of where they'd got to but I can look at those 15:08:55 are you referring to bug 26703? 15:09:13 I like the idea of an IRC_meeting_faciitator role (but I'm not volunteering!) 15:09:56 26703 - We should reconsider best practice for our title elements 15:10:20 Well, yes.. you highlighted that one Joubu 15:10:42 I was also thinking about the tree that hangs off bug 27610 15:10:42 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, Pushed to master , Accessibility: OPAC -

on each page is Logo but should be page description/title 15:10:44 And bug 27876 too? 15:10:44 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, ASSIGNED , Accessibility: OPAC - Reduce heading redundancy 15:10:47 yes, it's part of the priorities, mainly because it will be a nightmare to rebase 15:10:56 indeed 15:11:14 and the first one is pushed.. that one breaks the heirarchy in lots of places.. the subsequent ones fix it again 15:11:49 Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #290: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/290/ 15:11:59 so yeah.. those one's would be really helpful to help me work through henryb.. I've lost track of them personally at the minute 15:13:06 ok, moving on 15:13:12 #topic Update on releases 15:13:25 I don't think there is much to highlight for stables 15:13:38 Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #150: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/150/ 15:13:52 19.11: indeed 15:14:07 #topic Actions from last meeting 15:14:16 #topic 15:14:18 #topic caroline Officially announce KohaCon21 will be organized by Koha Pakistan Community & National Library of Pakistan 15:14:35 #info KohaCon21 announced on the list - https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2021-March/055951.html 15:14:55 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 15:15:00 #topic General development discussion 15:15:14 Info about the NSO and NQA queues: 15:15:19 both are quite high 15:15:37 NSO is 193 and NQA is 127 at the moment 15:15:56 I've bypassed QA this morning to help the QA team a bit 15:16:47 not good, but necessary 15:16:53 * ashimema kinda hit burn out and needed to switch to customer priority work for a couple of weeks.. I hope to get back to SO + QA soon 15:16:53 but we are really lacking movements, and the few around are loosing motivation 15:16:54 we need more hands on deck 15:17:19 what can we do? 15:17:20 yes, I've been very busy at work and that relfects in my tme for QA a lot 15:17:40 I can continue to skip QA but it's not ideal 15:17:45 I think calling on the other QA team member and trying to grow the team 15:17:58 I'll also try to catch up a bit 15:17:59 indeed.. it shouldn't be so noticeable when one or two of us have to prioritise other things for a week or two... I realise some people have stepped up a little whilst I've been out.. but the numbers are still telling. 15:19:05 I have another big event next week, after that it will hopefully improve a bit 15:19:20 i also can't touch some or they are out of my league, so need the dev people on the team to do those 15:20:00 we have quite a few bad bugs we need to focus on, but also some long sitting enh in the queue, that deserve a chance to make deadline 15:20:01 We are entering an important slot, few weeks left before the release. We need people around for the bugfixes and stabilisation period 15:20:17 exactly 15:20:41 bugs and the old things i am mostly worried about, a lot of them got close already once 15:21:01 the old things? 15:21:09 which ones do you have in mind? 15:21:15 we have soe things in qa queue from december, january and so on 15:21:23 last change date 15:21:57 we have been great managing the numbers and waiting times last cycle, but this cycle thigns have relapsed 15:22:02 (if that is a word you can use here?) 15:22:32 so we need to get pushing but at the same time ashimema and I are low on time - Call to QA Team for rescue! 15:22:52 ok, I have not much to offer/suggest, as said I will try to do some QA in the next following days 15:23:02 of course 15:23:09 that was just a summary and you do a lot - thx for that 15:23:20 and I will send an email to the team 15:23:36 i will try to catch up some until beginning of next week, at least to see where we are and where I can help most 15:23:37 (but it does not help much most of the time :D) 15:23:45 it's still something :) 15:24:00 * ashimema still thinks perhaps we need to somehow monetise QA.. 15:24:02 you know i keep pestering them weekly as well 15:24:14 but that's a broader discussion 15:24:27 it's more "give and take" 15:24:37 yeah, not something for this release at elast 15:26:08 another topic you have in mind before I close the meeting? 15:26:35 #topic Set time of next meeting 15:27:03 #info Next meeting: 12 May 2021, 14 UTC 15:27:27 For the election team, will be a bit less than 3 weeks before the release 15:27:29 sounds reasonable 15:27:40 sounds good 15:27:42 maybe shoudl send the meeting date for election to list? 15:27:50 might hopefully trigger some more sign-ups 15:28:13 yes, please..? 15:28:14 :) 15:28:21 i was going to say, please don't make me do it 15:28:33 ashimema? 15:28:33 ashimema is suspecting network.. ashimema's ssh terminal is sluggish.. I type something and it take a second or two to actually appear 15:28:36 bye 15:28:44 we shoudl make reiveune do it 15:28:49 :) 15:28:53 lololol 15:29:06 ooh a tuxayo 15:29:06 it has been said that a tuxayo is on a role 15:29:08 ok, I will send a reminder 15:29:12 #endmeeting