#koha: Development IRC meeting 25 January 2023

Meeting started by davidnind at 23:01:03 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_25_January_2023 (davidnind, 23:01:43)

  2. Introductions (davidnind, 23:02:08)
    1. David Nind, New Zealand (davidnind, 23:02:15)
    2. Victor Grousset, Taxayo Accounting Ltd., France (tuxayo, 23:02:35)
    3. Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions (lukeg, 23:02:55)

  3. Announcements (davidnind, 23:06:08)
    1. Hackfest in Marseille, France, info and registration: https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-January/047486.html (tuxayo, 23:08:02)

  4. Update from the Release Manager (23.05) (davidnind, 23:09:56)
  5. Updates from the Release Maintainers (davidnind, 23:11:36)
    1. Maintenance releases: 22.11.02 released, others in progress and expected soon... (davidnind, 23:15:44)

  6. Updates from the QA team (davidnind, 23:20:48)
    1. QA queue is quite high at the moment (145!), please QA if you can (davidnind, 23:24:04)
    2. If any local community or company organizes a remote hackathon or so other hands-on event, I'll be glad to make a workshop for patch testing :) (tuxayo, 23:26:01)
    3. Association KohaLa hackathon was held 23-25 January 2023 (davidnind, 23:26:17)
    4. 3 attendees, 2 new people trained on patch testing. Results: 11 tickets out of the Needs Signoff queue: 5 signoffs and 6 failed QA. And 2 attempt with a comment let on the ticket to ask for more details about how to test. (davidnind, 23:27:03)
    5. Updated sandbox documentation being worked on by tuxayo, see the talk page and feel free to comment and contribute https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Sandboxes#Quickly_decide_but_risk_missing_actually_testable_tickets (davidnind, 23:30:20)
    6. Here are criteria for what can and can't be tested on sandboxes. Feedback, completion, correction welcome to make make testing as autonomous as possible: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Sandboxes#3 (tuxayo, 23:30:22)

  7. Status of roadmap projects (davidnind, 23:31:11)
  8. Actions from last meeting (davidnind, 23:31:46)
    1. ACTION: cait add to RMaint documentation to run the test suite locally for security release (davidnind, 23:32:50)
    2. Broken 21.05 release: 21.05 not affected by security issues, so the fix broke it. Revert pushed, no new release done since the packages weren't published (davidnind, 23:35:48)
    3. Forgejo/Gitea fork and what we should do - tuxayo posted to the development mailing list (davidnind, 23:36:36)
    4. ACTION: Please reply to the mailing list about Forgejo/Gitea fork and what we should do (davidnind, 23:37:27)
    5. tuxayo has summed up ideas about guideline for SQL and sent to koha-devel for completion, rephrasing and terminology fixing https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-January/048016.html (davidnind, 23:40:26)
    6. ACTION: Guidelines for SQL - please provide feedback on the mailing list https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-January/048016.html (davidnind, 23:41:50)
    7. ACTION: tcohen To schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release). (davidnind, 23:42:45)
    8. ACTION: tcohen To draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release). (davidnind, 23:43:01)
    9. ACTION: oleonard ashimema Draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside. Update: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release). (davidnind, 23:43:16)

  9. General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (davidnind, 23:43:51)
    1. ACTION: tuxayo postpone to next meeting this: "ACK pre vs post processing for background jobs" from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_Meeting_11_January_2023 (tuxayo, 23:47:38)
    2. IRC logging is now back working (thanks to rangi for fixing!) (davidnind, 23:49:55)

  10. Review of coding guidelines (davidnind, 23:50:29)
    1. See second IRC logbot to see stuff that was missed by the main bot https://ilbot3.kohaaloha.com/koha (tuxayo, 23:50:41)

  11. Set time for next meeting (davidnind, 23:52:11)
    1. Next meeting: 8 February 2023, 15:00 UTC (davidnind, 23:53:25)
    2. For the 22 February 2023 meeting, the time is already decided: move to 22:00 UTC so that it is 9am for Australia (Sydney) and better covers the Americas. (davidnind, 23:55:22)


Meeting ended at 23:56:45 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. cait add to RMaint documentation to run the test suite locally for security release
  2. Please reply to the mailing list about Forgejo/Gitea fork and what we should do
  3. Guidelines for SQL - please provide feedback on the mailing list https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-January/048016.html
  4. tcohen To schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).
  5. tcohen To draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).
  6. oleonard ashimema Draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside. Update: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).
  7. tuxayo postpone to next meeting this: "ACK pre vs post processing for background jobs" from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_Meeting_11_January_2023


Action items, by person

  1. tuxayo
    1. tuxayo postpone to next meeting this: "ACK pre vs post processing for background jobs" from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_Meeting_11_January_2023
  2. UNASSIGNED
    1. cait add to RMaint documentation to run the test suite locally for security release
    2. Please reply to the mailing list about Forgejo/Gitea fork and what we should do
    3. Guidelines for SQL - please provide feedback on the mailing list https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2023-January/048016.html
    4. tcohen To schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).
    5. tcohen To draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).
    6. oleonard ashimema Draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside. Update: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft (previously deferred until after the 22.11 release).


People present (lines said)

  1. tuxayo (77)
  2. davidnind (76)
  3. wahanui (6)
  4. lukeg (6)
  5. huginn (5)


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